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		<title>religion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Some different senses of the word/concept &#8216;religion&#8217;:</p> Like a bellybutton: a basic and unifying characteristic of humanity &#8211; we are all &#8216;religious&#8217; in the broadest sense.  We all have a worldview, beliefs and values which inform and shape the way we live our lives. Like a band: a particular and distinguishing characteristic of a group &#8211; this is my/our &#8216;religion&#8217;, <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/11/religion/">religion</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some different senses of the word/concept &#8216;religion&#8217;:</p>
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<li><strong>Like a bellybutton</strong>: a basic and unifying characteristic of humanity &#8211; we are all &#8216;religious&#8217; in the broadest sense.  We all have a worldview, beliefs and values which inform and shape the way we live our lives.</li>
<li><strong>Like a band</strong>: a particular and distinguishing characteristic of a group &#8211; this is my/our &#8216;religion&#8217;, which you are in/out of.  We all are &#8216;religious&#8217;, perhaps, but there are religions within religion.</li>
<li><strong>Like a badge</strong>: a performance mindset characteristic of individuals (or a group) &#8211; I am &#8216;religious&#8217; and therefore better (in the eyes of God or of other humans) than people who aren&#8217;t as moral as me.</li>
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		<title>god and reality 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;a somewhat better way to phrase the question (remember, words matter!) about god and reality, etc. would this:</p> <p>Why does existence exist?</p> <p>Answering the question by reference to any particular &#8216;thing&#8217; that exists (a &#8216;force&#8217;, &#8216;singularity&#8217;, &#8216;multi-verse&#8217;, &#8216;string&#8217;, etc.) is to completely not pay attention to the question.  The answer cannot be in terms of any merely-existing thing, but must <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/05/god-and-reality-2/">god and reality 2</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;a somewhat better way to phrase the question (remember, <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/on-sciencefaith-blogging/" target="_blank">words matter</a>!) about <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/god-and-reality/" target="_blank">god and reality</a>, etc. would this:</p>
<p>Why does existence exist?</p>
<p>Answering the question by reference to any particular &#8216;thing&#8217; that exists (a &#8216;force&#8217;, &#8216;singularity&#8217;, &#8216;multi-verse&#8217;, &#8216;string&#8217;, etc.) is to completely not pay attention to the question.  The answer cannot be in terms of any merely-existing thing, but must be in reference to some &#8216;more-than-existing&#8217; kind of &#8216;more-than-thing&#8217;.  Phrases like &#8216;ground for existence&#8217; or &#8216;foundation of the universe&#8217; are appropriate attempts here.</p>
<p>The fact that these are metaphors shouldn&#8217;t surprise us.  (After all, even the most &#8216;technical&#8217; and &#8216;precise&#8217; <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/measuring-value/" target="_blank">terminology</a> is metaphor at bottom anyway&#8230;)  It&#8217;s quite obvious that the universe doesn&#8217;t have a &#8216;foundation&#8217; like a house; and it would seem obvious that &#8216;existence&#8217; isn&#8217;t on top of some &#8216;ground&#8217; in the same way that we might be at times.  But it remains that answering a question about why existence exists demands reaching for a category larger (or more &#8216;foundational&#8217;) than existence itself.  If asked &#8216;what is supporting that house&#8217;, could we really be satisfied with an answer that was in terms of house-ness?</p>
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		<title>coins have 2 sides</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>-you can&#8217;t say something is &#8216;evil&#8217; if you&#8217;re not already assuming some concept of &#8216;goodness&#8217;</p> <p>-you can&#8217;t say something is &#8216;poorly designed&#8217; unless you&#8217;re assuming what &#8216;good design&#8217; looks like</p> <p>-you can&#8217;t say something is &#8216;chaotic&#8217; unless you know what &#8216;order&#8217; is</p> <p>-and you don&#8217;t have goodness, design or order without some idea of teleology</p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-you can&#8217;t say something is &#8216;evil&#8217; if you&#8217;re not already assuming some concept of &#8216;goodness&#8217;</p>
<p>-you can&#8217;t say something is &#8216;poorly designed&#8217; unless you&#8217;re assuming what &#8216;good design&#8217; looks like</p>
<p>-you can&#8217;t say something is &#8216;chaotic&#8217; unless you know what &#8216;order&#8217; is</p>
<p>-and you don&#8217;t have goodness, design or order without some idea of <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/02/teleology-and-stuff/" target="_blank">teleology</a></p>
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		<title>god and reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The problem with questions like is God &#8220;real?&#8221; or does God &#8220;exist&#8220;? is that the most basic understanding of God (let&#8217;s assume monotheistic belief for the moment) is that the sum total of existing reality (the Bible says &#8216;all things&#8217;) was created (caused, desired, effected, brought about) by Him.</p> <p>If this stretches the mind (not to mention language) &#8211; then <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/god-and-reality/">god and reality</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with questions like <em>is God &#8220;<strong>real</strong>?&#8221;</em> or <em>does God &#8220;<strong>exist</strong>&#8220;?</em> is that the most basic understanding of God (let&#8217;s assume monotheistic belief for the moment) is that the <em>sum total of <strong>existing reality</strong></em> (the Bible says &#8216;all things&#8217;) was created (caused, desired, effected, brought about) by Him.</p>
<p>If this stretches the mind (not to mention language) &#8211; then one is actually beginning to grapple with monotheism.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">((Related recent post at &#8216;Just Thomism&#8217;: <a href="http://thomism.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/proofs-for-gods-existence/">Proof&#8217;s for God&#8217;s existence</a>))</p>
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		<title>buses, religion and life</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Prof. John Stackhouse&#8217;s post (here) on the recent &#8220;bus campaigns&#8221; is quite good and balanced I think.</p> <p>Apparently, the board of a Vancouver bus company has the following regulation on bus ads:</p> <p>“No advertisement will be accepted which promotes or opposes a specific theology or religious ethic, point of view, policy or action.”</p> <p>Stackhouse makes a great point, however, that <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/02/buses-religion-and-life/">buses, religion and life</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof. John Stackhouse&#8217;s post (<a href="http://stackblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/the-bus-wars/" target="_blank">here</a>) on the recent &#8220;bus campaigns&#8221; is quite good and balanced I think.</p>
<p>Apparently, the board of a Vancouver bus company has the following regulation on bus ads:</p>
<blockquote><p>“No advertisement will be accepted which promotes or opposes a specific theology or religious ethic, point of view, policy or action.”<span id="more-445"></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Stackhouse makes a great point, however, that it&#8217;s not only atheists, churches or other groups which are sending a &#8216;relgious&#8217; message&#8230;  Actually, many groups might advertise in such a way as to be religiously and morally instructive.  <img class="alignright" src="http://www.redbus.co.nz/content/images/35/460x800normal/Small_Bus_back025.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="201" />In this sense, many groups have their own kind of &#8216;orthodoxy&#8217; (right belief) and &#8216;orthopraxis&#8217; (right action), whether they are preaching to us that (a positive example) &#8220;it&#8217;s not the drinking, it&#8217;s how we&#8217;re drinking&#8221;, or whether they are evangelising to us (a not-so-positive example) that we can borrow x amount of money to splurge on that &#8216;must have&#8217; this or that.</p>
<p>((Dale resists the urge to write 17 paragraphs about the compelling analogy made by many between ancient empires and modern capitalist global structures/processes; and the common assessment that ancient devotion to various &#8216;gods&#8217; has been replaced in our culture in quite sneaky-yet-remarkably parallel ways  by a fervent and &#8216;religious&#8217; devotion to identity-based consumption, which is spurred on by the evangelism of advertisements, hailing their various products/services as saviours, etc&#8230;.))</p>
<p>Quite apart from the issue of what kind of censorship policy bus companys should have or not, this is just another example of how forever joined beliefs and actions are.</p>
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		<title>the future of atheism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve checked out a book from the Carey Baptist library that&#8217;s proving to be very interesting:</p> <p>The Future of Atheism: Alister McGrath &#38; Daniel Dennett in Dialogue</p> <p>It&#8217;s essentially a written copy of a 2007 conference including the McGrath/Dennett debate and the other papers presented &#8211; plus a few additional chapters and an introduction by the author/editor, Robert B. Stewart.</p> <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/02/the-future-of-atheism/">the future of atheism</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.spck.org.uk/cat/j_lib/9780281061068.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="225" />I&#8217;ve checked out a book from the <a href="http://www.carey.ac.nz" target="_blank">Carey Baptist</a> library that&#8217;s proving to be very interesting:</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.spck.org.uk/cat/show.php?9780281061068" target="_blank">Future</a> of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Future-Atheism-Alister-McGrath-Dialogue/dp/0800663144" target="_blank">Atheism</a>: <a href="http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mcgrath/" target="_blank">Alister McGrath</a> &amp; <a href="http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/incbios/dennettd/dennettd.htm" target="_blank">Daniel Dennett</a> in Dialogue</p>
<p>It&#8217;s essentially a written copy of a 2007 conference including the McGrath/Dennett debate and the other papers presented &#8211; plus a few additional chapters and an introduction by the author/editor, Robert B. Stewart.</p>
<p>What I particularly like about it (conference and book), is that it gives space for both sides to lay out their perspective.  Contributors include: Paul Copan, William Lane Craig, J.P. Morland, Keith M. Parsons, Ted Peters, Hugh J. McCann and others&#8230;</p>
<p>I look forward to reading as much of it as I can (probably late night reads while waiting for Thomas to feed, etc.!).</p>
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		<title>tansaa events in 2009</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>TANSAA (Theology and Natural Sciences Aotearoa Auckland &#8211; a group emerging from Laidlaw-Carey Graduate School) is finalising their programme for 2009, and it&#8217;s looking great.</p> <p>I&#8217;m particularly chuffed about the Conference planned for August 1, hosted by my church, Northcote Baptist.  Details:</p> <p>Saturday August 1 9am-5pm. Churches Conference: “Faithful Science? &#8211; Just How Well Do Science and Faith Get Along?”  <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/02/tansaa-events-2009/">tansaa events in 2009</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tansatalk.wordpress.com" target="_blank">TANSAA</a> (Theology and Natural Sciences Aotearoa Auckland &#8211; a group emerging from <a href="http://www.laidlaw.ac.nz" target="_blank">Laidlaw</a>-<a href="http://www.carey.ac.nz" target="_blank">Carey</a> Graduate <a href="http://www.tyndale-carey.ac.nz/" target="_blank">School</a>) is finalising their <a href="http://tansatalk.wordpress.com/programme" target="_blank">programme</a> for 2009, and it&#8217;s looking great.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly chuffed about the Conference planned for August 1, hosted by my church, <a href="http://www.nbc.org.nz" target="_blank">Northcote Baptist</a>.  Details:<span id="more-436"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Saturday   August 1  9am-5pm.</strong> Churches Conference: <em>“Faithful  Science? &#8211; Just How Well Do Science and Faith Get Along?</em>”   Northcote Baptist Church.  $10 &#8211; lunch included.  Contact Dale Campbell at </span><a href="mailto:dale@nbc.org.nz" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">dale@nbc.org.nz</span></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><br />
Speakers include Dr. Jeff Tallon, Graeme Finlay, Prof. Neil Broom, Yael Klangwisan, Nicola Hoggard Creegan and others to be confirmed.</span></p>
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		<title>bob white in new zealand</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cambridge Geophysicist, Professor Robert (Bob) White is coming to New Zealand to take part in 3 events.</p> <p>The first and second are the same talk both in Wellington and Auckland &#8211; a Christian Response to Global Warming (I&#8217;m planning on attending the Auckland talk).  For the third event (which I am sad to miss, due to a wedding up north), <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/02/bob-white-in-new-zealand/">bob white in new zealand</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cambridge Geophysicist, Professor Robert (Bob) White is coming to New Zealand to take part in 3 events.</p>
<p>The first and second are the same talk both in Wellington and Auckland &#8211; a Christian Response to Global Warming (I&#8217;m planning on attending the Auckland talk).  For the third event (which I am sad to miss, due to a wedding up north), Robert will take part (with others) in a Symposium entitled: <strong><em>Science and religion in the 21st century: faith in science, science in faith</em>.</strong></p>
<p>Saturday, 14 March 2009, 8.30am-6pm<br />
Theatre 401-439, ‘Neon Foyer’, Engineering School, Symonds Street, The University of Auckland<br />
Please register for the symposium by Wednesday 11 March, with p.medhora@auckland.ac.nz<br />
Cost $20, non-waged people $10 (refreshments and lunch provided)<br />
Parking under Owen G Glenn building, $5 flat rate</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve provided the PDF flyer for download by clicking <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/feb-9-0748-theologyglobalwarmleaflet-v3.pdf">here</a>.<span id="more-431"></span></p>
<p><strong>Symposium Programme</strong>:</p>
<p>Prof Jeff Tallon FRSNZ<br />
Truth or true? – faith and science rubbing shoulders</p>
<p>Prof Bob White FRS<br />
Natural disasters: acts of God or results of human folly?</p>
<p>Dr Graeme Finlay<br />
The story in our genes</p>
<p>Rev Dr Graham O’Brien<br />
Evolving evolution</p>
<p>Prof Gareth Jones CNZM<br />
Manufacturing humans: the borderlands between human and divine control</p>
<p>Prof John McClure<br />
Psychology and religion: is there a ghost in the machine?</p>
<p>Dr Stephen Garner/Dr Nicola Hoggard-Creegan<br />
The view from theology</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve quite enjoyed reading through &#8220;Is Nature Enough: Meaning and Truth in the Age of Science&#8220;, by John Haught.  One of the many points he articulates well is what he refers to as &#8220;layered explanation&#8221;.</p> <p>Layered Explanation.</p> <p>In the science/religion &#8216;debate&#8217; (as if it needed to be a debate &#8211; which, as we shall see, is the whole point of <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/01/atheism-and-explanatory-monism/">atheism and explanatory monism</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve quite enjoyed reading through &#8220;Is <a href="http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521847141" target="_blank">Nature</a> Enough: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Enough-Meaning-Truth-Science/dp/0521609933/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1233215833&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">Meaning</a> and Truth in the Age of <a href="http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=YLmVVynpTV8C" target="_blank">Science</a>&#8220;, by John Haught.  One of the many points he articulates well is what he refers to as &#8220;layered explanation&#8221;.<span id="more-392"></span></p>
<p><em><strong>Layered Explanation.</strong></em></p>
<p>In the science/religion &#8216;debate&#8217; (as if it needed to be a debate &#8211; which, as we shall see, is the whole point of this post), I think one of the most urgently needed concepts is that of &#8220;layered explanation&#8221;.  What is meant here is that there can be more than one layer/level/kind of explanation for a given phenomenon.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quote from the book:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Naturalists put too heavy a burden on evolutionary science whenever they turn it into ultimate explanation.  What I shall propose instead, as a way of giving a place to both science and religion is <em>layered explanation</em>.  By this I mean that everything in the universe is open to a plurality of layers of explanation.  The alternative to layered explanation, or to explanatory pluralism, is explanatory monism, an approach dear to the heart of most naturalists.&#8221; (p. 16 &#8211; italics in original)</p></blockquote>
<p><em><strong>Science: enemy or fount of all knowledge?</strong></em></p>
<p>I think two kinds of people will benefit most from this: fundamentalist religious believers (who either a) make an enemy of science, or b) attempt to create a &#8216;better&#8217; kind of science) and convinced philosophical naturalists (who generally both a) think religion &#8216;poisons everything&#8217;, and b) think science is the ultimate way to explain <em>everything</em>); they both happen to agree that religion and science are <em>directly and totally</em> incompatible (at least for some definitions of &#8216;religion&#8217; and of &#8216;science&#8217;). One &#8211; religious fundamentalism &#8211; demonises science as anti-God, and the other &#8211; scientism (another kind of fundamentalism) heralds science as the ultimate key to any and all kinds of knowledge.</p>
<p><em><strong>Fencing reality &#8211; fencing explanations</strong></em></p>
<p>When a theist (of any kind) suggests to a science-heralding atheist that there are &#8216;limits&#8217; to what science will ever be able to explain, he/she is sometimes sharply reprimanded for attempting to maliciously &#8216;ring-fence&#8217; reality, with the obvious motivation of keeping some bits safe for theistic belief.  But the science-heralding atheist does his/her own kind of <em>explanatory</em> &#8216;ring-fencing&#8217;, when she/he restricts ultimate explanation to the tool of science.</p>
<p><em><strong>Science &#8211; a powerful tool, but with limited uses</strong></em></p>
<p>What I appreciate about John Haught is that he <em>passionately and repeatedly</em> affirms the need to encourage science to go as far as it possibly can in it&#8217;s <em>scientific</em> explanation of phenomena.  But there are <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2008/10/knowing-about-knowing/" target="_blank">modes of knowing</a> which are sourced by methods other than methodological naturalism, such as the realm of ethics.</p>
<p>For example, science can offer ever-increasingly detailed accounts of the biological journey in which sperm, egg, placenta and foetus/baby have starring roles.  This kind of account is infinitely valuable (and I&#8217;m conscious that this statement is a non-scientific one!), and constitutes a powerful tool of knowledge to be used in many situations&#8230; but scientific accounts are unable to provide any guidance whatsoever concerning ethical questions such as: how to (or whether we even should!) reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortion, or when/if a developing foetus can/cannot be &#8216;terminated&#8217; (on which &#8211; just to ground this quickly and easily in reality &#8211; it has <em>seriously</em> been proposed by ethicist Peter Singer that &#8216;termination&#8217; can ethically occur as late as 1 month <em>after</em> birth! &#8211; see Singerian principle #9 <a href="http://jmp.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/jhn032" target="_blank">here</a>).</p>
<p>As valuable as scientific explanations are, they remain (if I may use the strongest language that comes to mind) <em>utterly impotent</em> for the grounding of values from which ethical decisions are made.  However one <em>does</em> ground (or not ground!) the values for their ethical life, they are not using the knowledge arrived at via methodological naturalism, but rather some kind of tradition, philosophy/logic or life-value-system &#8211; which can broadly be called their &#8216;religion&#8217;.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A new-ish series of vids with Bishop N.T. Wright speaking to various issues related to Christian belief.  Tom really works hard here to offer very well-compressed and summarised statements on some very intricate and rich concepts.  Enjoy.</p> <p></p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new-ish series of vids with Bishop <a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com" target="_blank">N.T. Wright</a> speaking to various issues related to Christian belief.  Tom really works hard here to offer very well-compressed and summarised statements on some very intricate and rich concepts.  Enjoy.<span id="more-366"></span></p>
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