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		<title>full gospel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Some presentations and presenters of Christianity are, in my view, overly obsessed with the Death of Jesus such that they over-emphasise it, and end up marginalising the Incarnation of Jesus, the Ministry of Jesus, the Resurrection of Jesus, the Ascension of Jesus and the giving of the Spirit of Jesus.  It probably wouldn&#8217;t be fair to use any label for <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/12/full-gospel/">full gospel</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some presentations and presenters of Christianity are, in my view, overly obsessed with the Death of Jesus such that they over-emphasise it, and end up marginalising the Incarnation of Jesus, the Ministry of Jesus, the Resurrection of Jesus, the Ascension of Jesus and the giving of the Spirit of Jesus.  It probably wouldn&#8217;t be fair to use any label for the flavour of Christianity I inherited in my early years as a Christian.  Whatever label is used, this version of Christianity is too prevalent.</p>
<p>In this version I inherited, the only reason Jesus was born was to die for our sins.  His ministry seemed like just some time-filling activity before he died.  The Resurrection is like icing on the cake after the &#8216;main event&#8217;, his Atoning death.  The Ascension is basically ignored altogether.  And the gift of the Spirit is basically about empowering people to tell others that Jesus died for their sins.  The New Testament, and the study and explanation of it over Church History, however, contains a Gospel that is much fuller than this version I inherited (and which most of our modern and quite a few of our older worship songs tend to focus on).</p>
<p><strong>The Incarnation of Jesus</strong> is not a mere stepping stone to the Cross (though it is not less than that).  It is the Creator entering and uniting to the Creation in general, and human nature in particular.  This, the Eastern Orthodox rightly emphasise, is itself a saving act.  All creation participates in the salvation that Christ effects.</p>
<p><strong>The Ministry of Jesus</strong> does not merely fill time until the Cross.  Jesus life and ministry is an enactment and fulfillment of genuine humanness.  Everything that humans were meant to be and do, which was focused in the call of Abraham and his people &#8216;Israel&#8217;, Jesus achieved and demonstrated in his life.  He finishes the race we could not.  This is a saving act.</p>
<p><strong>The Resurrection of Jesus</strong> is not a mere happy ending to the Cross.  Whereas the Cross entails Jesus taking Death (and Evil and Sin) onto himself and extinguishing it, the bodily transformation and translation of Jesus, the Resurrection, enacts and achieves the defeat of Death (and Evil and Sin).  It also achieves a kind of &#8216;beachhead&#8217; (or &#8216;first-fruits&#8217;) into New Creation, the ultimate destiny and intended goal for all Creation.  This is a saving act &#8211; for all creation &#8211; including humans.</p>
<p><strong>The Ascension of Jesus</strong> is not an undoing of the Incarnation (which would be a huge heresy), where the Son of God strips off his humanity and reports back to the Father that the atoning death was accomplished (and thus the body no longer needed!).  It is about the enthronement of Jesus to the place of ultimate authority &#8211; which among other things, entails a denial of any other entities claiming such ultimate authority.  This is a saving act, saving us from false authorities.</p>
<p><strong>The Giving of the Spirit of Jesus</strong> is not simply a bit of personal motivation to tell people about Jesus dying for us (though it is not less than that!).  It is the gift of the ongoing personal spiritual presence of Jesus, enabling us, correcting us, leading us, empowering us, shaping us to become more like Jesus.  It&#8217;s not just about &#8216;evangelism&#8217; (or exciting private experiences), but about becoming more human &#8211; more like the true human, Jesus.  The Spirit of the true human, Jesus, makes us truly human.  This &#8216;humanisation&#8217; (or &#8216;re-humanisation&#8217;) is a saving act; it&#8217;s what salvation is all about.</p>
<p>And <em>that&#8217;s</em> the &#8220;full gospel&#8221; that the New Testament communicates.</p>
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		<title>fundamental distinction</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>If we take words patiently and technically, asking if God &#8216;exists&#8217; or not is like asking if God is physically alive or dead, moving or still, blind or seeing, takes up space or not, heavy or light, hot or cold, tall or short, hard or soft, or any other question which could be asked about things we see, touch, feel, <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/10/fundamental-distinction/">fundamental distinction</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we take words <em>patiently and technically</em>, asking if God &#8216;exists&#8217; or not is like asking if God is <em>physically</em> alive or dead, moving or still, blind or seeing, takes up space or not, heavy or light, hot or cold, tall or short, hard or soft, or any other question which could be asked about things we see, touch, feel, hear, smell or taste &#8211; or in other words to make a fundamental category mistake.  I think it was Paul Tillich who wrote that anyone who says God [merely] &#8216;exists&#8217; is an atheist [or perhaps a kind of pantheist].</p>
<p>On the other hand, if we use words <em>colorfully and metaphorically</em>, this category distinction is less (if at all) problematic.  Two examples of metaphor: Christian tradition calls God &#8220;father&#8221;; Science calls stuff &#8220;matter&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>original sin essay</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Done.</p> <p>I really enjoyed the research on this one.  My continual struggle is starting early enough on an assignment so that I have time to drown myself in research and actually write the essay.  There are 34 items in the bibliography (dictionaries, commentaries, journal articles and some topical monographs), and I really only dipped into things.  Pretty late in the <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/06/original-sin-essay/">original sin essay</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Evo-Orig-Sin-Brought-Forth-in-Iniquity.pdf">Done</a>.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed the research on this one.  My continual struggle is starting early enough on an assignment so that I have time to drown myself in research <em>and</em> actually write the essay.  There are 34 items in the bibliography (dictionaries, commentaries, journal articles and some topical monographs), and I really only dipped into things.  Pretty late in the piece I was wow-ed by Karl Barth&#8217;s commentary on Romans 5:12, and really want to look into that more.</p>
<p>Anyway, hope it&#8217;s interesting reading (warning, it&#8217;s 4,000+ words)!</p>
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		<title>mixed responses</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Christian response to the &#8216;Faithful Science&#8217; day-conference have been mixed.</p> <p>Most of the appreciative and complementary feedback has been email or verbal.  As for the less-appreciative feedback, unfortunately it&#8217;s been more public.</p> <p>First, the Christian newspaper &#8220;Challenge Weekly&#8221; published a (to say it kindly) selective and less-than-inaccurate piece entitled &#8220;Conference fuels Controversy&#8221; (which can be viewed here &#8211; scroll <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/09/mixed-responses/">mixed responses</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian response to the &#8216;Faithful Science&#8217; day-conference have been mixed.</p>
<p>Most of the appreciative and complementary feedback has been email or verbal.  As for the less-appreciative feedback, unfortunately it&#8217;s been more public.</p>
<p>First, the Christian newspaper &#8220;Challenge Weekly&#8221; published a (to say it kindly) selective and less-than-inaccurate piece entitled &#8220;Conference fuels Controversy&#8221; (which can be viewed <a href="http://www.challengeweekly.co.nz/stories/~d/2009-08-10/post/vol-67-iss-30/id/18/">here</a> &#8211; scroll down about half way), which, among other things, made the bizarre and out-of-left-field claim that some of the presenters held views more like Deism (which was anything but the case).</p>
<p>Predictably, the &#8220;letters to the editor&#8221; section in subsequent issues have been spotted with a handful of  readers who were concerned/shocked by the conference.  And, also not a surprise, a fresh write-up by CMI (Creation Ministries International) was subsequently published (<a href="http://www.challengeweekly.co.nz/stories/~d/2009-08-24/post/vol-67-issue-32/id/20/">here</a>), entitled &#8220;Genesis not a Myth&#8221;, warning against a roadway to &#8220;spiritual disaster&#8221;.</p>
<p>The CMI article is also up <a href="http://creation.com/christian-academics-promote-evolution-in-new-zealand">here</a> at their own website in very similar format, though more specifically targeting the Faithful Science conference.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve offerred a couple of responses to Challenge, hoping to a) correct factual errors, b) help to clarify relevant issues, and c) challenge (no pun intended) readers to be more patient, and not assume what &#8220;those christian evolutionists&#8221; actually believe.  Also, I&#8217;ve responsed to the CMI article and am hoping for some positive interaction there.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve had some dialogue (which is <em>absolutely exemplary</em> in terms of tone, patience, etc.)  with an I.D. advocate who is a member of my church and attended the conference.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to (hopefully!) fruitful dialogue and interaction in the next&#8230; however long.  <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>god is not a &#8216;thing&#8217;&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and that is one of the first &#8216;things&#8217; I believe about God.</p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and that is one of the first &#8216;things&#8217; I believe about God.</p>
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		<title>faithful science</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Announcing &#8220;Faithful Science&#8220;&#8230;</p> <p>A one-day Science &#38; Faith conference &#8211; coming August 1.</p> <p>Speakers and topics:</p> <p>DALE CAMPBELL &#8211; Science &#38; Faith: Key Issues YAEL KLANGWISAN &#8211; Reading the book of Genesis NICOLA HOGGARD CREEGAN &#8211; Evolution and Evil MYK HABETS &#8211; A Scientific Theology JEFF TALLON &#8211; Physics and Faith MATT FLANNAGAN &#8211; Does Evolution Make Belief in God <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/06/faithful-science/">faithful science</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Announcing &#8220;<strong>Faithful Science</strong>&#8220;&#8230;</p>
<p>A one-day Science &amp; Faith conference &#8211; coming August 1.</p>
<p>Speakers and topics:<span id="more-606"></span></p>
<p>DALE CAMPBELL &#8211; Science &amp; Faith: Key Issues<br />
YAEL KLANGWISAN &#8211; Reading the book of Genesis<br />
NICOLA HOGGARD CREEGAN &#8211; Evolution and Evil<br />
MYK HABETS &#8211; A Scientific Theology<br />
JEFF TALLON &#8211; Physics and Faith<br />
MATT FLANNAGAN &#8211; Does Evolution Make Belief in God Untenable?<br />
GRAEME FINLAY &#8211; The Glorious Ape<br />
NEIL BROOM &#8211; Is there Transcendence in Nature?<br />
GRAHAM O’BRIEN &#8211; Evolution &amp; Purpose</p>
<p>Organised by <a href="http://tansatalk.wordpress.com" target="_blank">TANSA</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Hosted by <a href="http://nbc.org.nz" target="_blank">Northcote Baptist</a>.</p>
<p>PDF flyer <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/FlyerSlim2FulCol4.pdf">here</a>.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all come now ya hear? <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>the most basic question</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 11:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The most basic question one could ask is one which is asked and wondered at both by small children and genius level intellectuals.</p> <p>It has various forms, and is worded differently, but is essentially the same question:</p> <p>Where did we come from?</p> <p>Alternate forms include: Why are we (or anything!) here?  How did things come into being?  Why is there <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/05/the-most-basic-question/">the most basic question</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most basic question one could ask is one which is asked and wondered at both by small children and genius level intellectuals.</p>
<p>It has various forms, and is worded differently, but is essentially the same question:</p>
<p>Where did we come from?</p>
<p>Alternate forms include: Why are we (or anything!) here?  How did things come into being?  Why is there something rather than nothing?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the question of the ultimate origin (or original beginning) of everything.</p>
<p>A few things about the question:</p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">First</span></em>, it is valid to ask this question and to seek at least some kind of answer.  The level of certainty which one has concerning their answer has nothing to do with whether or not it is a valid question.</p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Second</span></em>, we are never done asking the question.  Comparison between the various kinds of answers will never be finished.</p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Third</span></em>, it is the most basic question.  It is the question where all other questions lead to.</p>
<p>Now, this most basic question has three kinds of answers (each with presumably infinite variations):</p>
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<li><strong>Everything* is an illusion.</strong></li>
<li><strong>Everything is eternal.</strong></li>
<li><strong>Everything was created.</strong></li>
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<p>Now, I&#8217;ll comment on each option in more detail.</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Everything is an illusion.</strong> This is not a popular view.  Who would want that to be true?  More than this, it immediately raises the question of &#8220;If things are illusory, then who/what is having the illusion?&#8221;  Descartes famously said &#8220;I think therefore I am.&#8221;  So things are real.  Option one is neither desirable nor logical.</li>
<li><strong>Everything is eternal (uncreated/uncaused).</strong> This view encompasses all views in which the idea of an ultimate &#8216;beginning&#8217; is rejected.  Cosmology (whether big bang theory or multiverse theory) seems to point &#8216;back&#8217; spacially, temporally and causally to an ultimate beginning.  Also, even the views that are cyclic in nature would seem to be in need of a prior explanation.</li>
<li><strong>Everything is created (had a beginning / was caused).</strong> This view can be split into two: a) Everything is caused/created by a cause/creator other than itself; or b) Everything is caused/created/originated by itself.  More succinctly: a) Created by creator or b) Self-originating.  If it is arbitrary or ad hoc (which I reject) to postulate a Creator, than it is certainly and utterly arbitrary and ad hoc to postulate that &#8216;Everything&#8217; just had to exist of necessity (by nature).  This leads me and countless others to conclude that the most rational and reasonable position to take (however tentatively or confidently) is the view that Everything was created/caused by a creator/cause other than itself.  This view encompasses all kinds of beliefs in any/all kinds of creators/causes.  Affirming a 1st cause does not instantly commit someone to any particular kind of set of beliefs &#8211; only the simple affirmation of a 1st cause.  Pantheism, Panentheism, Deism, Theism, Spinozian/Einsteinian cosmic &#8216;god&#8217;, Mother Nature, etc. are all encompassed here.</li>
</ol>
<p>This question, again, is the most basic question and is the starting point of theology.  Theology starts with the assumption (and a rational/reasonable one) that the only valid answer for the existence of things is a Creator who is other than the things created.</p>
<p>Theology must be taken one step/level at a time.  It is utter nonsense to reject the general idea of a Creator because of some specific question at a later logical step/level.</p>
<p>That brings things to a natural breaking point, so I&#8217;ll finish there.</p>
<p>Can anyone think of a 4th possible &#8216;kind&#8217; of answer to the question &#8211; or another example of one of the three answers given that I did not mention?  Other responses?</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>*The word &#8216;Everything&#8217; is being used here in the most basic sense, to refer to all existing &#8216;things&#8217;.  Much argument can be had about this usage.  But not here.</p>
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		<title>evolution conference: june 25-27</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Mark your calendars and register!</p> <p>TANSA (Theology and the Natural Sciences Aotearoa) presents:</p> <p dir="ltr">The Theological Meaning of Evolution</p> <p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr">Conference to celebrate and interact with Darwin. </p> <p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr">Thursday June 25th at 7pm to Saturday June 27th at 6pm</p> <p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr">Key Note Speaker: Dr. Christopher Southgate, author of The  Groaning of Creation University of <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/05/evolution-conference-june-25-27/">evolution conference: june 25-27</a></span>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://tansatalk.wordpress.com" target="_blank">TANSA</a> (Theology and the Natural Sciences Aotearoa) presents:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><em>The </em></strong><strong><em>Theological Meaning of Evolution</em></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Conference to celebrate and interact with Darwin.<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Thursday June 25th at 7pm to Saturday June 27th at 6pm</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span><strong>Key Note Speaker:</strong> Dr. </span>Christopher Southgate, author of <em>The  Groaning of Creation</em> University of Exeter<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>omni (all) + potent (powerful)</p> <p>All red herrings about making rocks too heavy to lift or making a 5-sided triangle aside, the notion of God&#8217;s omnipotence at least implies that God has the potential to do literally anything.</p> <p>Now, I&#8217;m sure that the writers of the Bible would agree that the Creator is &#8216;all-potent&#8217; in this way, yet they don&#8217;t <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/lamb-omnipotence/">lamb omnipotence</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omni (all) + potent (powerful)</p>
<p>All red herrings about making rocks too heavy to lift or making a 5-sided triangle aside, the notion of God&#8217;s omnipotence at least implies that God has the <strong>potent</strong>ial to do literally anything.<span id="more-529"></span></p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure that the writers of the Bible would agree that the Creator is &#8216;all-potent&#8217; in this way, yet they don&#8217;t seem the least bit concerned with splitting philosophical hairs about whether or not God is able to do every literal conceivable thing.  Quite clearly, there are lots of conceivable things that God would be free/able to do, but doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Rather than speculating about God&#8217;s hypothetical actions, they seem infinitely more concerned with what God&#8217;s actual actions (note the grammatical redundancy).</p>
<p>The picture of God and his actions gets fuller and fuller over time and in Scripture.  First monotheism is distinguished from polytheism, then child-sacrifice gets a firm &#8216;no&#8217;, and so on&#8230;  all giant leaps of understanding for those people at those times.  The New Testament writers believed that the picture of God had fully come into focus with Jesus.  To know Jesus equals knowing what God is like.</p>
<p>Paul speaks of the cross of Christ as a stumbling block to the Jews.  A Messiah who was crucified and killed?  Not the Messiah we&#8217;re looking for&#8230;  and hanging on a tree = cursed by God.  He then says the cross of Christ is foolishness to the Greeks.  A saviour?  Killed?  He certainly cannot have any kind of favourable dealings with the gods.  What a silly notion!</p>
<p>But then Paul then speaks of the cross &#8211; this audacious and foolish looking spectacle; this scandal &#8211; as the power of God.</p>
<p>The writer of Revelation has a slain lamb on the throne of God.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for an omnipotent God?</p>
<p>I recently heard someone speak of God&#8217;s power as always being &#8220;Lamb power&#8221;, which resonates fully with the New Testament picture of a Creator who redemptively suffers with and for the Created.</p>
<p>For Paul, Christ is known through the Spirit who is (of course) the Spirit of Christ &#8211; who is the Lamb.  The fruits of that Spirit can be seen to describe this kind of &#8220;Lamb power&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Love power.  Joy power. Peace power.  Patience power. Kindness power. Goodness power.  Trustfulness power.  Gentleness power.  Self-control power.</p>
<p>Paul gives a one-word summary of God: Love.</p>
<p>He later describes Love to the divisive, elitist and arrogant Corinthians.  His description of Love is often used to describe the Lamb who is Love.</p>
<p>The Lamb has patience, The Lamb is kind; The Lamb is not envious; The Lamb is not vain, The Lamb is not puffed up;  The Lamb does not behave indecently, The Lamb does not pursue [his] own things, The Lamb is not easily provoked, The Lamb thinks no evil; The Lamb does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices in the truth. The Lamb quietly covers all things, The Lamb believes all things, The Lamb hopes all things, The Lamb endures all things. The Lamb never fails.</p>
<p>The Biblical picture of the omnipotent God comes into clearest focus here.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The 2009 Gifford Lectures, &#8220;A Fine-Tuned Universe: Science, Theology and the Quest for Meaning&#8221;, presented by Alister McGrath, are all up online in PDF format.</p> <p>Lecture 1: Yearning to make sense of things - 2009 Gifford Lecture 1.pdf</p> <p>Lecture 2: Why we still need natural theology &#8211; 2009 Gifford Lecture 2.pdf</p> <p>Lecture 3: The mystery of the constants of nature &#8211; 2009 <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/2009-gifford-lectures/">2009 gifford lectures</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2009 <a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/gifford/" target="_blank">Gifford Lectures</a>, &#8220;A Fine-Tuned Universe: Science, Theology and the Quest for Meaning&#8221;, presented by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alister_McGrath" target="_blank">Alister</a> <a href="http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mcgrath/" target="_blank">McGrath</a>, are all up online in PDF format.</p>
<p>Lecture 1: Yearning to make sense of things - <a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/gifford/uploads/files/2009%20Gifford%20Lecture%201.pdf">2009 Gifford Lecture 1.pdf</a></p>
<p>Lecture 2: Why we still need natural theology &#8211; <a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/gifford/uploads/files/2009%20Gifford%20Lecture%202.pdf">2009 Gifford Lecture 2.pdf</a></p>
<p>Lecture 3: The mystery of the constants of nature &#8211; <a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/gifford/uploads/files/2009%20Gifford%20Lecture%203.pdf">2009 Gifford Lecture 3.pdf</a></p>
<p>Lecture 4: The enigmas of evolutionary biology &#8211; <a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/gifford/uploads/files/2009%20Gifford%20Lecture%204.pdf">2009 Gifford Lecture 4.pdf</a></p>
<p>Lecture 5: Natural theology and the quest for meaning &#8211; <a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/gifford/uploads/files/2009%20Gifford%20Lecture%205.pdf">2009 Gifford Lecture 5.pdf</a></p>
<p>Lecture 6: Conclusion: clues to the meaning of the universe? &#8211; <a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/gifford/uploads/files/2009%20Gifford%20Lecture%206.pdf">2009 Gifford Lecture 6.pdf</a></p>
<p>Also in book form: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fine-Tuned-Universe-Quest-Science-Theology/dp/0664233104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1240558592&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">A Fine-Tuned Universe: The Quest for God in Science and Theology</a></p>
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