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		<title>owned</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever thought about what it means to say that you own something?

(a house) A: &#8220;Are you a home owner?&#8221;  B: &#8220;Not totally &#8211; the bank owns most of it.&#8221;
(a rock) A: &#8220;Hey give me my rock back!&#8221; B: &#8220;I saw it first, it&#8217;s mine!&#8221;
(land) A: &#8220;Hey, American Indigenous tribes! Welcome to your new home &#8211; we like to call them &#8216;reservations&#8217;!&#8221; <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/12/owned/">owned</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Have you ever thought about what it means to say that you <em>own </em>something?<span id="more-943"></span></div>
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<li>(a house) A: <em>&#8220;Are you a home owner?&#8221;  <span style="font-style: normal;">B: <em>&#8220;Not totally &#8211; the bank owns most of it.&#8221;</em></span></em></li>
<li>(a rock) A: <em>&#8220;Hey give me my rock back!&#8221; </em>B: <em>&#8220;I saw it first, it&#8217;s mine!&#8221;</em></li>
<li>(land) A: <em>&#8220;Hey, American Indigenous tribes! Welcome to your new home &#8211; we like to call them &#8216;reservations&#8217;!&#8221;</em> B: <em>&#8220;New home? What&#8217;s wrong with our current home?&#8221;</em></li>
<li>(etc.)</li>
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<p>In one very real sense, humans simply see things and <em>claim </em>them for their own.  Whoever gets to the bit of land first &#8216;claims&#8217; it &#8211; the kid who sees the rock first can say it&#8217;s &#8216;mine&#8217; &#8211; etc.  We snatch up bits of stuff (trees, iron, land, water, air, animals, other humans, etc.) and declare them to be &#8216;mine&#8217;/'ours&#8217;/etc.</p>
<p>Without some concept of ownership/possession, things such as &#8216;trading&#8217;, &#8216;sharing&#8217;, &#8216;buying/selling&#8217;, &#8216;stealing&#8217; and &#8216;borrowing&#8217; have no meaning at all.  But still, everyone I&#8217;ve ever known lives their life as though the concept of ownership is actually meaningful.  We get insurance, car alarms and watch dogs for our houses, cars and veggie gardens (or if you&#8217;re protecting &#8216;your&#8217; nation, you probably get a military with bullets, explosives, tanks, ships and planes, etc.).  We all take ownership seriously.</p>
<p>Philosophically, ownership is based on a distinction between our (subject) &#8216;self&#8217; and at least one (object) &#8216;other&#8217;. I have a friend/acquaintance who believes that there is no real &#8216;other&#8217; to reality &#8211; that all reality is &#8216;self&#8217; (if we&#8217;d only just develop/cultivate our collective self-awareness, etc.).  Not only is the concept of any kind of <em>relation-ship </em>(which is always between a &#8216;self&#8217; and an &#8216;other&#8217;) made impossible, it also negates any meaningful notion of <em>owner-ship</em>.</p>
<p>The only sense of ownership which can even possibly/partially be retained on this view would be a sense of a collective, universal &#8216;self&#8217; which &#8216;self-owns&#8217; everything&#8230;  or should we rather say &#8216;self-owns itself&#8217;??  Any division of reality into &#8216;this&#8217; or &#8216;that&#8217; part(s) which then comprise a whole(s) is necessarily a division into which the self/other distinction instantly leaps.  As you can (hopefully) see, even if some people find it fashionable to speak/write like this, I&#8217;ve not yet met anyone who finds it possible to <em>live </em>like this.  Actually, one can&#8217;t even go very long speaking/writing like that without contradicting themselves &#8211; probably sooner than later.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, I find the Judaeo-Christian tradition/philosophy/worldview to be far more useful, reasonable and intuitive.  It takes personal and corporate human ownership seriously, but places them both within the context of ultimate or divine ownership.  The stuff we &#8216;have&#8217;, we are really only &#8216;looking after&#8217;.  Our universe, our planet, our rocks, our trees, our skies, our seas, our beasts, our beauties, our race and races, our brains, our bodies&#8230; <em>our entire world</em> belongs ultimately to the Creator God, who entrusts it all to us as stewards to look after it.</p>
<p>The charge to the primal human pair in the Garden of Eden story reflects humanity being given its job description or vocation:  &#8221;Tend and keep the garden.&#8221;  We are given the task and responsibility to do everything from astronomy and economics to biology and electronics; from sociology and psychology to ecology and geology.  God&#8217;s world of space and time, of matter and meaning, of black holes and bonobos, of planets and people, of sex and supernovae, of courtrooms and cancer wards, of playgrounds and prisons, of bluebirds and babies is to be cared about and cared for.</p>
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		<title>two more kiwi science posts</title>
		<link>http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/06/two-more-kiwi-science-posts/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=two-more-kiwi-science-posts</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Robinson discusses science and biblical interpretation here.</p>
<p>Ryan Browning responds to young-earth <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/06/two-more-kiwi-science-posts/">two more kiwi science posts</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Robinson discusses science and biblical interpretation <a href="http://xenos-theology.blogspot.com/2009/06/believe-bible-or-science.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Ryan Browning responds to young-earth views <a href="http://rmbrowning.wordpress.com/2009/06/06/evidence-indicates-both-the-earth-and-the-universe-are-old/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>on reading genesis 1-3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>What Genesis 1-3 is not: a play-by-play, atom-by-atom historical and scientific account of creation.  The author/community which produced the text clearly had other things in mind than producing such a thing.*</p>
<p>This is widely accepted by people who should know: scholars in fields relevant to Genesis 1-3 (biblical scholars, ancient near east religion scholars, hebrew linguists, experts on ancient semetic poetry, etc. <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/05/on-reading-genesis-1-3/">on reading genesis 1-3</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Genesis 1-3 is not: a play-by-play, atom-by-atom historical and scientific account of creation.  The author/community which produced the text clearly had other things in mind than producing such a thing.*</p>
<p>This is widely accepted by people who should know: scholars in fields relevant to Genesis 1-3 (biblical scholars, ancient near east religion scholars, hebrew linguists, experts on ancient semetic poetry, etc. &#8211; see relevant examples in the Denver Seminary Old Testament <a href="http://www.denverseminary.edu/article/annotated-old-testament-bibliography-2009/" target="_blank">bibliograpy</a> &#8211; updated annually). Yael Klangwisan spoke on Genesis recently at a <a href="http://tansatalk.wordpress.com">TANSA</a> event at <a href="http://www.laidlaw.ac.nz">Laidlaw</a> college, and a very informative PDF of her slideshow can be found <a href="http://tansatalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/tansa2april2009.pdf">here</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately there are two kinds of people I know of that both tend to <em>insist </em>that Genesis 1-3 is intended as a &#8216;factual&#8217; report of the exact, literal events of creation.  These two types of people are (who would have thunk it!?) young-earth Creationists (YEC&#8217;s)&#8230; and many (not all) atheists.</p>
<p>YEC&#8217;s are convinced that science supports their literal interpretation (see pretty much anything on <a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/" target="_blank">this</a> site)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and some atheists are convinced that this literal-and-only-literal-gosh-darnit interpretation has been replaced by science (see the opening statement of Richard Dawkins from his 2007 <a href="http://www.dawkinslennoxdebate.com/" target="_blank">debate</a> with John Lennox &#8211; and I&#8217;ll put a transcription of it as the <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/05/on-reading-genesis-1-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1704" target="_blank">first comment</a> below).**</p>
<p>Meanwhile, there are those who are willing to listen to what Genesis is really trying to get across, and who refuse to use science to prove their religious or anti-religious views.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>*Many/most/all? of the characters in the Bible, for example, would have been aware of the poetic and metaphorical nature of Genesis 1-3, though would naturally have had little/no reason to question whether or not it took 6 days for God to create the world, etc.  A prime example of just how much the literal-ness of this text does not matter in Jewish thought is the story of when Ray Vander Laan asked the world-class Jewish scholar, Jacob Neusner how long the days of creation were; to which the reply after a long pause was &#8220;I&#8217;ve never thought about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>** No&#8230; wait&#8230; Dawkins doesn&#8217;t only say that the literal interpretation of Genesis 1-3 is replaced by science, he says that religious explanations <em>in general</em> are replaced by science&#8230;  Wow.</p>
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		<title>evolution conference: june 25-27</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 09:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>TANSA (Theology and the Natural Sciences Aotearoa) presents:</p>
<p dir="ltr">The Theological Meaning of Evolution</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr">Conference to celebrate and interact with Darwin. </p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr">Thursday June 25th at 7pm to Saturday June 27th at 6pm</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr">Key Note Speaker: Dr. Christopher Southgate, author of The  Groaning of Creation University of Exeter
Local Speakers: Assoc. Prof. Ruth Barton <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/05/evolution-conference-june-25-27/">evolution conference: june 25-27</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark your calendars and register!</p>
<p><a href="http://tansatalk.wordpress.com" target="_blank">TANSA</a> (Theology and the Natural Sciences Aotearoa) presents:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><em>The </em></strong><strong><em>Theological Meaning of Evolution</em></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Conference to celebrate and interact with Darwin.<span> </span></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span><strong>Key Note Speaker:</strong> Dr. </span>Christopher Southgate, author of <em>The  Groaning of Creation</em> University of Exeter<br />
</span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Local Speakers:</strong> Assoc. Prof. Ruth Barton (Auckland), Assoc. Prof. John Stenhouse (Otago), Assoc. Prof. Peter Lineham (Massey), Dr. John Owens (Good Shepherd), Dr. Grant Gillett (Otago), Prof. Neil Broom (Auckland), Dr. Stephen Downs (Flinders), Rev.Hugh Bowron (Holy Trinity)  and theologians from Laidlaw Carey. </span></p>
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		<title>lamb omnipotence</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>omni (all) + potent (powerful)</p>
<p>All red herrings about making rocks too heavy to lift or making a 5-sided triangle aside, the notion of God&#8217;s omnipotence at least implies that God has the potential to do literally anything.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure that the writers of the Bible would agree that the Creator is &#8216;all-potent&#8217; in this way, yet they don&#8217;t seem the least <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/lamb-omnipotence/">lamb omnipotence</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omni (all) + potent (powerful)</p>
<p>All red herrings about making rocks too heavy to lift or making a 5-sided triangle aside, the notion of God&#8217;s omnipotence at least implies that God has the <strong>potent</strong>ial to do literally anything.<span id="more-529"></span></p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure that the writers of the Bible would agree that the Creator is &#8216;all-potent&#8217; in this way, yet they don&#8217;t seem the least bit concerned with splitting philosophical hairs about whether or not God is able to do every literal conceivable thing.  Quite clearly, there are lots of conceivable things that God would be free/able to do, but doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Rather than speculating about God&#8217;s hypothetical actions, they seem infinitely more concerned with what God&#8217;s actual actions (note the grammatical redundancy).</p>
<p>The picture of God and his actions gets fuller and fuller over time and in Scripture.  First monotheism is distinguished from polytheism, then child-sacrifice gets a firm &#8216;no&#8217;, and so on&#8230;  all giant leaps of understanding for those people at those times.  The New Testament writers believed that the picture of God had fully come into focus with Jesus.  To know Jesus equals knowing what God is like.</p>
<p>Paul speaks of the cross of Christ as a stumbling block to the Jews.  A Messiah who was crucified and killed?  Not the Messiah we&#8217;re looking for&#8230;  and hanging on a tree = cursed by God.  He then says the cross of Christ is foolishness to the Greeks.  A saviour?  Killed?  He certainly cannot have any kind of favourable dealings with the gods.  What a silly notion!</p>
<p>But then Paul then speaks of the cross &#8211; this audacious and foolish looking spectacle; this scandal &#8211; as the power of God.</p>
<p>The writer of Revelation has a slain lamb on the throne of God.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for an omnipotent God?</p>
<p>I recently heard someone speak of God&#8217;s power as always being &#8220;Lamb power&#8221;, which resonates fully with the New Testament picture of a Creator who redemptively suffers with and for the Created.</p>
<p>For Paul, Christ is known through the Spirit who is (of course) the Spirit of Christ &#8211; who is the Lamb.  The fruits of that Spirit can be seen to describe this kind of &#8220;Lamb power&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Love power.  Joy power. Peace power.  Patience power. Kindness power. Goodness power.  Trustfulness power.  Gentleness power.  Self-control power.</p>
<p>Paul gives a one-word summary of God: Love.</p>
<p>He later describes Love to the divisive, elitist and arrogant Corinthians.  His description of Love is often used to describe the Lamb who is Love.</p>
<p>The Lamb has patience, The Lamb is kind; The Lamb is not envious; The Lamb is not vain, The Lamb is not puffed up;  The Lamb does not behave indecently, The Lamb does not pursue [his] own things, The Lamb is not easily provoked, The Lamb thinks no evil; The Lamb does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices in the truth. The Lamb quietly covers all things, The Lamb believes all things, The Lamb hopes all things, The Lamb endures all things. The Lamb never fails.</p>
<p>The Biblical picture of the omnipotent God comes into clearest focus here.</p>
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		<title>books on evolution and earth age</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Over at xenos theology, Jonathan Robinson draws out attention to:</p>

5 ebooks on evolution and Christian belief &#8211; summing up 2 years of blogging/commenting at this blog (see links to ebooks on right side-bar).
and&#8230;
this book review of this book: The Bible, Rocks and Time: Geological Evidence for the Age of the Earth by Davis A. Young and Ralph F. Stearley.
that is all <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/books-on-evolution-and-earth-age/">books on evolution and earth age</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at <a href="http://xenos-theology.blogspot.com" target="_blank">xenos theology</a>, Jonathan Robinson draws out attention to:</p>
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<li>5 ebooks on evolution and Christian belief &#8211; summing up 2 years of blogging/commenting at <a href="http://evanevodialogue.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">this</a> blog (see links to ebooks on right side-bar).</li>
<li>and&#8230;</li>
<li>this <a href="http://exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com/2009/04/review-of-young-and-stearley-bible.html" target="_blank">book review</a> of this book: <em><a id="lnx0" name="evtst|a|0830828761" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0830828761?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;link_code=as3&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=0830828761">The Bible, Rocks and Time: Geological Evidence for the Age of the Earth</a><img style="border: medium none; margin: 0px;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0830828761" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></em> by Davis A. Young and Ralph F. Stearley.</li>
<li>that is all (cool how I made 2 things look like 4, huh?) <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
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		<title>god and reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The problem with questions like is God &#8220;real?&#8221; or does God &#8220;exist&#8220;? is that the most basic understanding of God (let&#8217;s assume monotheistic belief for the moment) is that the sum total of existing reality (the Bible says &#8216;all things&#8217;) was created (caused, desired, effected, brought about) by Him.</p>
<p>If this stretches the mind (not to mention language) &#8211; then one is <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/god-and-reality/">god and reality</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with questions like <em>is God &#8220;<strong>real</strong>?&#8221;</em> or <em>does God &#8220;<strong>exist</strong>&#8220;?</em> is that the most basic understanding of God (let&#8217;s assume monotheistic belief for the moment) is that the <em>sum total of <strong>existing reality</strong></em> (the Bible says &#8216;all things&#8217;) was created (caused, desired, effected, brought about) by Him.</p>
<p>If this stretches the mind (not to mention language) &#8211; then one is actually beginning to grapple with monotheism.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">((Related recent post at &#8216;Just Thomism&#8217;: <a href="http://thomism.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/proofs-for-gods-existence/">Proof&#8217;s for God&#8217;s existence</a>))</p>
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		<title>ben on bart</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holy rusted metal, BArT ehrMAN!&#8221;  (yes, I just typed that; many cheese-ness awards shall I win&#8230;)  </p>
<p>Respected (and prolific! given the rate he publishes blogs and books!) New Testament Scholar Ben Witherington III is doing an astoundingly in-depth review of Bart Ehrman&#8217;s &#8216;Jesus Interrupted&#8217; (parts 1 &#8211; 2 &#8211; 3 &#8211; 4 and 5) and see Ehrman being humorously interrupted <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/ben-on-bart/">ben on bart</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holy rusted metal, BArT ehrMAN!&#8221;  (yes, I just typed that; many cheese-ness awards shall I win&#8230;) <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Respected (and prolific! given the rate he publishes blogs and books!) New Testament Scholar <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Ben Witherington III</a> is doing an astoundingly in-depth review of Bart Ehrman&#8217;s &#8216;Jesus Interrupted&#8217; (parts <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2009/04/bart-interrupted-detailed-analysis-of.html">1</a> &#8211; <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2009/04/bart-interrupted-detailed-analysis-of_08.html">2</a> &#8211; <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2009/04/bart-interrupted-detailed-analysis-of_13.html">3</a> &#8211; <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2009/04/bart-interrupted-part-four.html">4</a> and <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2009/04/bart-interrupted-detailed-analysis-of_16.html">5</a>) and see Ehrman being humorously interrupted &#8211; as many have been! &#8211; on the Colbert Report <a href="http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/224128/april-09-2009/bart-ehrman" target="_blank">here</a>).  I&#8217;ve only skimmed a couple of them (they&#8217;re quite long!), but I&#8217;ve seen enough to see that he&#8217;s done a patient and &#8211; very, very, VERY &#8211; thorough job.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>absolutely frickin&#8217; genius.</p>
<p>(hat tip BW3)</p>
<p>(also &#8211; don&#8217;t miss the web links right throughout &#8211; many of the names, etc. have links to <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/04/facebook-passion/">facebook passion</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolutely frickin&#8217; <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/facebookpassion.pdf">genius</a>.</p>
<p>(hat tip <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2009/04/facebook-passion-of-christ.html" target="_blank">BW3</a>)</p>
<p>(also &#8211; don&#8217;t miss the web links right throughout &#8211; many of the names, etc. have links to relevant webpages!)</p>
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		<title>sabbath narrative sermon</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>My first narrative sermon &#8211; based (loosely, but hopefully faithfully!) on Luke 6:1-11.</p>
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<p>SCENE ONE &#8211; Against the Grain
We were hungry.  I was hungry.  Very hungry.</p>
<p>You know the feeling.  Rubbing your stomach with your hands, doesn&#8217;t make it go away.</p>
<p>The grainfields we were walking through were lush and beautiful just to look at.  The owner, John, son of Jacob, whom we all <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/03/sabbath-narrative-sermon/">sabbath narrative sermon</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first narrative sermon &#8211; based (loosely, but hopefully faithfully!) on Luke 6:1-11.<span id="more-462"></span></p>
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<p>SCENE ONE &#8211; Against the Grain<br />
We were hungry.  I was hungry.  Very hungry.</p>
<p>You know the feeling.  Rubbing your stomach with your hands, doesn&#8217;t make it go away.</p>
<p>The grainfields we were walking through were lush and beautiful just to look at.  The owner, John, son of Jacob, whom we all knew, was set to have a bountiful harvest this season.  That &#8216;grainy&#8217; smell was familiar and inviting.  It was the smell of abundance and blessing.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if you&#8217;re a small child, or well advanced in years &#8211; you just can&#8217;t walk through a ripe, ready-to-be-picked grainfield without letting your fingers lightly sweep over the tops of the grain stalks.  Each hand created by God with five fingers each to soak in the simple yet eternal sensation&#8230;</p>
<p>The Law of Moses allowed us to use our hands to pick the grain heads off the stalks and eat them.  After all, that&#8217;s a far cry from charging into someone else&#8217;s grain field with your sickle and baskets and robbing the man of a noticable portion of his crop.  These mere handfuls were just enough for a small bite.</p>
<p>All the less for me. While all the others could hold a handful of grain heads in one hand, and rub off the chaff and eat them with the other hand, I had to pluck, rub and eat with only my left hand as my right hand had been shrunken and shriveled since as long as I had memory of anything.  But I thanked God for both the grain and for my good left hand &#8211; even if it was twice as hard to rub the husk off.  Thankfully, it doesn&#8217;t take much grain to put pack the sharp hunger for a good little while.  Grain is filling like that.  And it was all the more tasty when you&#8217;re extra hungry!</p>
<p>So, it didn&#8217;t take any deep meditation or soul-searching for us that day to eat a few bits of grain.  You don&#8217;t have to pray about such things.  If you&#8217;re hungry and you&#8217;re in a grain field, you pick off a few heads of grain and eat them.  It&#8217;s just as simple and natural as that.  And even though there were quite a few of us, our hand-pickings of grain would leave no discernable mark on the fields.</p>
<p>Not everyone was eating.  Some of &#8216;those&#8217; kind of Pharisees were also among us.  Of course they weren&#8217;t eating.  They were pedantic about Sabbath observance, and didn&#8217;t want to do the slightest thing that could even possibly be seen as work.</p>
<p>Now, the Sabbath was important to all Jews.  Whether you were following John the Baptist out in the desert, a member of the Pharisees or Sadducees or with us following Jesus, we all took seriously God&#8217;s command to do no work on the Seventh Day of the Week &#8211; the rest Day.  But the Pharisees took it incredibly seriously.  Especially some of the more extreme Pharisees that had been, shall I say, &#8216;accompanying&#8217; us for the last few weeks.  The Sabbath was one of the things that distinguished us from the pagans, those who were not Jewish; but these extreme Pharisees that were spying on&#8230; I mean&#8230; &#8216;journeying with&#8217; us; they made special effort to ensure that they did absolutely no work at all.  As if to drive home the difference with additional force.</p>
<p>Jesus was walking out front, leading the way, we were following (as you did with a Rabbi), and these Pharisees were at the back of our group.  Though I honestly had not considered what they would think of our grain-picking, in a sense, I wasn&#8217;t surprised when they complained.  Their leader, Jacimus, did not hesitate in bringing the charge against us.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;What are you doing!!??&#8221;</em>, he said, shaking his clenched fist at us.  <em>&#8220;How can you profane the Rest Day of the Lord like this!  With every head of grain you pluck, you profane God&#8217;s Holy Sabbath! You call yourselves Jews?  The chosen of the Lord?  Why do you then do this as though you were a pagan who did not know the instruction of the Law of Moses! </em></p>
<p><em>And you add insult to injury by thoroughly working the grains over in your hands, rubbing off the chaff.  You might as well go the whole way and get out the sickles and baskets, then take the heads to the threshing floor and purge the grain properly as one would after the Sabbath is finished!!!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>We said nothing &#8211; not knowing what to say&#8230;</p>
<p>Awkward silence&#8230;</p>
<p>Some of us still had grain heads in our hands&#8230;</p>
<p>None of us dared rub them any longer with our fingers.</p>
<p>The calm, yet clear voice of Jesus broke the silence.  He had walked back toward the back of the group, where Jacimus was rebuking us.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;You rebuke us for not knowing the Law of Moses, but you seem to have not read this Scripture about David: when he was hungry, he entered God&#8217;s house, he took and he ate the showbread, the Bread of the Presence, and gave it to those who were with him; and all that when it was only lawful for the priests to eat it!  Doing an unlawful action, yet doing what was right!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>They said absolutely nothing, but their faces were screaming.</p>
<p>Jesus went on&#8230; his hand gestures moving at the same slow deliberate pace as his speech&#8230;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Man was not created to be a slave to the Day of Rest.  The Sabbath was made to serve and refresh Man.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;And one more thing&#8230;&#8221;</em>, he said as he placed His right hand on his chest, <em>&#8220;The Son of Man is also the Lord of the Sabbath!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Jesus walked away.</p>
<p>Jacimus, the leading Pharisee there, put his finger to his lips, silencing the others who were no doubt on the verge of accusing Jesus of Blasphemy.  He gave the signal, and the incensed Pharisees stormed off in the other direction.</p>
<p>SCENE TWO &#8211; A Hand Up In Life<br />
Sabbath time again.  That particular group of Pharisees had kept their distance a bit more all week.  They were up to something.  They were too incenced last Sabbath, and too quiet all week.</p>
<p>I left my home for the Synagogue &#8211; just barely within the Sabbath walking-distance limit, of course.  Many of the Pharisees had built extra dwellings very close to the Synagogue, so that they could be sure not to break the Sabbath.</p>
<p>Each week, I would arrive early to Synagogue.  I loved being there.  But I didn&#8217;t get there early to sit up front, of course.  Let&#8217;s just say people with withered hands don&#8217;t take the best seats in synagogue&#8230;  I&#8217;d learned that it was the least disruptive for me to arrive early and quietly take a seat on a bench in one of the corners.</p>
<p>That Sabbath, after the usual prayers and recitation of the Psalms, Jesus began to teach.  My goodness, He was captivating!  But He never relied on shouting his message home or using the polished rhetoric that the Greek sophists used &#8211; though He could have if he wanted to&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, those certain Pharisees were in their usual seats near the center where things happened.  Although they weren&#8217;t talking or even whispering to each other, anyone with eyes to see could tell they were waiting for Jesus to bring up the Sabbath issue again.  And He must have known it too, because that is precisely what He did&#8230;</p>
<p>What took me completely by surprise, however, is when He looked directly at me, and said, in an authoritative yet kind tone;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Nathan.  Get up.  Come and stand here near Me.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>He knew my name.</p>
<p>I did exactly as he said, without hesitating.</p>
<p>My right hand &#8211; that hand that people use to do most things with &#8211; but my bad hand &#8211; was tucked away, hidden in the folds of my well-worn tunic.  With my left hand &#8211; my perfect, flawless left hand &#8211; I lifted it just enough so that I wouldn&#8217;t trip over it&#8230;</p>
<p>Jesus looked warmly at me.  His manner was serious, but peaceful.</p>
<p>I nodded &#8211; as one nods when saying thank you.</p>
<p>All this took mere moments.</p>
<p>Jesus then addressed the synagogue.  Not so much looking at the Pharisees, as looking past them;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;You have all heard it said in the Law, &#8216;In six days shall you do your labour, but the seventh is Holy to the Lord.&#8217;  But I say to you that there are weightier matters of the Law &#8211; justice and mercy; Truly I say to you, the Spirit of the Law brings life, but the Letter kills. </em></p>
<p><em>Therefore, I ask you: Which of these two is more truly lawful on the Sabbath &#8211; to do good, or to do evil?  Which is done more justly on the Day of Rest &#8211; to save life or to destroy it?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Though we all knew the answer, nobody could say even a word.</p>
<p>He patiently waited.  His firm gaze slowly panned around over the whole synagogue&#8230;</p>
<p>His eyes stopped on me&#8230;</p>
<p>So did the eyes of everyone else&#8230;</p>
<p>I did not know what was about to happen, yet I think my hand knew in some way&#8230;</p>
<p>His words were calm and direct;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Stretch out your hand.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>He was not talking about my good hand.</p>
<p>Before he had even finished the words, I had already felt it.</p>
<p>Words are only so good at describing such a sensation.  It was like the surge of warmth one feels when talking with an old friend, yet at the same time like a refreshing dip in a cool stream on a hot day.  It was in one sense very much like the feeling you get reading the Scriptures about the song-filled return of Israel from captivity &#8211; our glorious return from Babylon.  And remarkably similar to the feeling my heart felt when Jesus had said my name earlier.  All these feelings and a thousand more, except in my right hand.</p>
<p>It was not a strange, interrupting or intrusive feeling, but a more welcoming one &#8211; something like arriving home after a long, long voyage &#8211; only more familiar.  Even though it was of course a totally new feeling.</p>
<p>Renewal.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s perhaps the best way to describe the feeling.</p>
<p>These moments blurred together.  I don&#8217;t clearly remember the actual motion of un-covering or extending my hand, but I clearly remember standing there with a new right hand &#8211; every bit as good as my left &#8211; and the amazed look on everyone&#8217;s faces.</p>
<p>I turned to look at Jesus &#8211; whose firm gaze had melted into a warm smile.</p>
<p>The Pharisees were aflame with rage.  Like mad dogs, they scurried out of the Synagogue, shaking their fists at Jesus.  One of them turning as he left, saying;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;You will reap the wages of what you have sown here!  You shall surely pay the price for this!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>That was as close to a verbal death threat as it gets.</p>
<p>The irony hit me.  Jesus healing my hand had demonstrated the creative power that the Spirit of the Law has to bring life.  And, unknowingly, the reaction of the Pharisees had demonstrated that the Letter of the Law kills&#8230;</p>
<p>I looked back at Jesus &#8211; his expression now a mixture of joy and sorrow.</p>
<p>He lifted His head, and our eyes met once more.</p>
<p>He smiled and nodded in the direction of the grainfields outside of town.</p>
<p>I laughed, nodded again in sincere gratitude, and then &#8211; not caring at all if I looked like a young child &#8211; ran out the door.</p>
<p>From now on, I would pluck, rub and eat grain with both hands.</p>
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