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		<title>patience&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>With any discipline or line of enquiry, patience is a virtue.</p> <p>We must have patience regarding the amount we will ever be able to know about a given topic.  Whether your &#8216;-ology&#8217; is of &#8216;bios&#8217;, &#8216;theos&#8217;, or &#8216;cosmos&#8217;, it&#8217;s essential to remember that there will always be more questions.  For some, this is an enquiry-stopper.  &#8221;Heck, if we can&#8217;t know <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/patience/">patience&#8230;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With any discipline or line of enquiry, patience is a virtue.</p>
<p>We must have patience regarding the amount we will ever be able to know about a given topic.  Whether your &#8216;-ology&#8217; is of &#8216;bios&#8217;, &#8216;theos&#8217;, or &#8216;cosmos&#8217;, it&#8217;s essential to remember that there will always be more questions.  For some, this is an enquiry-stopper.  &#8221;Heck, if we can&#8217;t know it all, why bother?&#8221;  For myself, however, this is invigorating!  More to learn!  More to think about!  More to consider!  Let&#8217;s get to it!</p>
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		<title>&#8220;organised religion&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>When people rant about &#8220;organised religion&#8221; they may or may not know what they are dissing.</p> <p>Westporo Baptist Church (the infamous &#8220;god hates fags&#8221; church) has no official (or unofficial?) ties to ANY denomination or other church(s).  There are untold thousands of less-controversial churches and preachers, which nonetheless stray off into variously worrying forms of fundamentalism.</p> <p>For these kinds of <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/organised-religion/">&#8220;organised religion&#8221;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people rant about &#8220;organised religion&#8221; they may or may not know what they are dissing.</p>
<p>Westporo Baptist Church (the infamous &#8220;god hates fags&#8221; church) has no official (or unofficial?) ties to ANY denomination or other church(s).  There are untold thousands of less-controversial churches and preachers, which nonetheless stray off into variously worrying forms of fundamentalism.</p>
<p>For these kinds of churches &amp; pastors, &#8216;freedom of conscience&#8217; and &#8216;the priesthood of the believer&#8217; (both of which I hold to firmly), are held to <em>at the expense of</em> such things as accountability or governing structure (congregational or denominational).  Church &#8220;hierarchy&#8221;, like any kind of structure, can be wise or foolishly designed and implemented.</p>
<p>While I could never say that a pastor must have a degree to be qualified, the slogan &#8220;God doesn&#8217;t call the qualified, he qualifies the called&#8221; betrays not a little naivety.  It&#8217;s not about insisting that a pastor must have a masters degree or anything, but at the very least, they should be accountable to <em>someone other than themselves.</em></p>
<p>The Baptist Union of NZ does not require any particular degree, but in order to maintain your denominational registration, you must fulfill the (very flexible and practical) requirements within a &#8220;Ministry Development Agreement&#8221;.  I personally think (and I should, as a registered Baptist pastor, huh!?) this is a wise middle ground between a very dangerous brand of &#8216;independence&#8217; (or should we call it anti-dependence?) on the one hand, and very constrictive forms of church &#8216;accountability&#8217; (control!).</p>
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		<title>beings that have &#8211; or havers that are had</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>(The excellent documentary that got my brain going down this &#8211; excellent or not so excellent &#8211; train of thought is &#8216;Consumed: Inside the Belly of the Beast&#8216;)1</p> <p>Erich Fromm is known in large part for his contrast between the &#8216;being&#8217; and &#8216;having&#8217; modes of existence, as expressed in his 1976 book (partial preview here), To Have or To Be?  <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/beings-or-havers/">beings that have &#8211; or havers that are had</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(The excellent documentary that got my brain going down this &#8211; excellent or not so excellent &#8211; train of thought is &#8216;<a href="http://www.slackjaw.co.uk/consumed/">Consumed: Inside the Belly of the Beast</a>&#8216;)<sup><a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/beings-or-havers/#footnote_0_1700" id="identifier_0_1700" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="And no, I&amp;#8217;m not going to pretend I didn&amp;#8217;t notice the parallel language to John the Seer in chapters 17-18 of his Apocalypse!">1</a></sup></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Fromm">Erich Fromm</a> is known in large part for his contrast between the &#8216;being&#8217; and &#8216;having&#8217; modes of existence, as expressed in his 1976 book (partial preview <a href="http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=JvG85s966koC&amp;printsec=frontcover">here</a>), <em>To Have or To Be?</em>  The basic idea is that humans, having estranged ourselves from our environment or the other(s), try to restore this relationship either by way of some kind of dominating possession (&#8216;having&#8217;) of the other, or by way of relating to or existing (&#8216;being&#8217;) with the other.</p>
<p>The speculative thought I wanted to explore via blogging (one of blogging&#8217;s best uses) is thus: <strong>Only &#8216;beings&#8217; can actually &#8216;have&#8217;; and &#8216;havers&#8217; are actually &#8216;had&#8217; by the things they think they &#8216;have&#8217;.</strong></p>
<p>The <em>haver</em> is defined by the act of possession of the other, and is thus enslaved to his desire to <em>have</em> this other.  The <em>being</em>, however, is defined by, not possession, but relationship to other (and self), and is thus free of needing to <em>have</em> the other.</p>
<p>It is worth pausing and considering the many things we can desire to possess &#8211; the many things which can thus begin to possess us.  Status.  Wealth.  Comfort.  Knowledge.  Satisfaction.  Power.  Relationships.  Affection.  I reckon all of these things are good things which are nonetheless distorted when we seek to found our <em>being</em> upon <em>having</em> them.  i.e. &#8220;I <em>am</em> one who <em>has</em> knowledge, friends, wealth, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe the ultimate <em>Being</em> is the Creator, whose ontological (Gk. <em>ontos</em> = being/existence) status is wholly distinct from, and transcendent of, our world.  The Creator did not need to <em>have</em> a creation<sup><a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/beings-or-havers/#footnote_1_1700" id="identifier_1_1700" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="which would make the Creator contingent upon the creation!!">2</a></sup>, but rather simply <em>is</em> a creative <em>Being</em>, and thus a) relates to creation as <em>being </em>the Creator, and b) therefore truly <em>has</em> it.</p>
<p>Thus, we most reflect this ultimate <em>Being</em> when our <em>being</em> is grounded by relationship to the other, rather than established by possession of the other.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1700" class="footnote">And no, I&#8217;m not going to pretend I didn&#8217;t notice the parallel language to John the Seer in chapters 17-18 of his Apocalypse!</li><li id="footnote_1_1700" class="footnote">which would make the Creator contingent upon the creation!!</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>full gospel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Some presentations and presenters of Christianity are, in my view, overly obsessed with the Death of Jesus such that they over-emphasise it, and end up marginalising the Incarnation of Jesus, the Ministry of Jesus, the Resurrection of Jesus, the Ascension of Jesus and the giving of the Spirit of Jesus.  It probably wouldn&#8217;t be fair to use any label for <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/12/full-gospel/">full gospel</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some presentations and presenters of Christianity are, in my view, overly obsessed with the Death of Jesus such that they over-emphasise it, and end up marginalising the Incarnation of Jesus, the Ministry of Jesus, the Resurrection of Jesus, the Ascension of Jesus and the giving of the Spirit of Jesus.  It probably wouldn&#8217;t be fair to use any label for the flavour of Christianity I inherited in my early years as a Christian.  Whatever label is used, this version of Christianity is too prevalent.</p>
<p>In this version I inherited, the only reason Jesus was born was to die for our sins.  His ministry seemed like just some time-filling activity before he died.  The Resurrection is like icing on the cake after the &#8216;main event&#8217;, his Atoning death.  The Ascension is basically ignored altogether.  And the gift of the Spirit is basically about empowering people to tell others that Jesus died for their sins.  The New Testament, and the study and explanation of it over Church History, however, contains a Gospel that is much fuller than this version I inherited (and which most of our modern and quite a few of our older worship songs tend to focus on).</p>
<p><strong>The Incarnation of Jesus</strong> is not a mere stepping stone to the Cross (though it is not less than that).  It is the Creator entering and uniting to the Creation in general, and human nature in particular.  This, the Eastern Orthodox rightly emphasise, is itself a saving act.  All creation participates in the salvation that Christ effects.</p>
<p><strong>The Ministry of Jesus</strong> does not merely fill time until the Cross.  Jesus life and ministry is an enactment and fulfillment of genuine humanness.  Everything that humans were meant to be and do, which was focused in the call of Abraham and his people &#8216;Israel&#8217;, Jesus achieved and demonstrated in his life.  He finishes the race we could not.  This is a saving act.</p>
<p><strong>The Resurrection of Jesus</strong> is not a mere happy ending to the Cross.  Whereas the Cross entails Jesus taking Death (and Evil and Sin) onto himself and extinguishing it, the bodily transformation and translation of Jesus, the Resurrection, enacts and achieves the defeat of Death (and Evil and Sin).  It also achieves a kind of &#8216;beachhead&#8217; (or &#8216;first-fruits&#8217;) into New Creation, the ultimate destiny and intended goal for all Creation.  This is a saving act &#8211; for all creation &#8211; including humans.</p>
<p><strong>The Ascension of Jesus</strong> is not an undoing of the Incarnation (which would be a huge heresy), where the Son of God strips off his humanity and reports back to the Father that the atoning death was accomplished (and thus the body no longer needed!).  It is about the enthronement of Jesus to the place of ultimate authority &#8211; which among other things, entails a denial of any other entities claiming such ultimate authority.  This is a saving act, saving us from false authorities.</p>
<p><strong>The Giving of the Spirit of Jesus</strong> is not simply a bit of personal motivation to tell people about Jesus dying for us (though it is not less than that!).  It is the gift of the ongoing personal spiritual presence of Jesus, enabling us, correcting us, leading us, empowering us, shaping us to become more like Jesus.  It&#8217;s not just about &#8216;evangelism&#8217; (or exciting private experiences), but about becoming more human &#8211; more like the true human, Jesus.  The Spirit of the true human, Jesus, makes us truly human.  This &#8216;humanisation&#8217; (or &#8216;re-humanisation&#8217;) is a saving act; it&#8217;s what salvation is all about.</p>
<p>And <em>that&#8217;s</em> the &#8220;full gospel&#8221; that the New Testament communicates.</p>
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		<title>night</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably the only worship song leaders who, during a Christmas day worship service, introduced the song &#8220;O Holy Night&#8221; by way of a reference to the book &#8220;Night&#8221; by Elie Wiesel, which recounts his experiences in the death camps Auschwitz (which I&#8217;ve visited and will never forget) and Buchenwald.</p> <p>The juxtaposition is too profound to ignore.  On the one <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/12/night/">night</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably the only worship song leaders who, during a Christmas day worship service, introduced the song &#8220;O Holy Night&#8221; by way of a reference to the book &#8220;Night&#8221; by Elie Wiesel, which recounts his experiences in the death camps Auschwitz (which I&#8217;ve visited and will never forget) and Buchenwald.</p>
<p>The juxtaposition is too profound to ignore.  On the one hand, one of the best (if not the best) Christmas carols, singing about that great night when the Light of the World entered our world through the womb of a young woman.  On the other, one of the most hideously horrific glimpses into one of the worst (if not the worst) seasons in human history, when darkness in its blackest hue was manifest through human indifference, racism and genocidal hatred.  Two very different nights indeed.</p>
<p>For me, this serves as a necessary and unnerving reminder of yet another aspect of the doctrine (and more so the Event!) of the Incarnation.  Divinity did not only &#8216;come near&#8217; to our world, it entered and united to it.  God did not unite to the best and most beautiful bits of creation, but to all of it, warts and all.  The Light of the World descended into the darkest pitch.  For the Early Church Fathers who debated vigorously how to understand the dual nature of Christ, he must be fully divine in order to save us, and fully human in order to effect the salvation.  The slogan they developed was, &#8220;What is not assumed cannot be saved.&#8221;  Thus, Christ fully descended into humanity.</p>
<p>It occurs to me that there is no place on earth, no hospice, no church, no home, no garden, that is so pure and righteous that evil does not touch it with its corrupting finger at least in part.  And conversely, there is no place on earth, no brothel, no wall street, no hard drive, and yes, no death camp, that is so stained and putrid that good does not scatter at least some small dots of light within it.</p>
<p>Reading &#8220;Night&#8221; was hard going, to be sure.  One cannot have a beating heart and not grimace at times.  But I was struck by the faint glimmers of light within such darkness.  The SS soldier who was kinder than the rest.  The fellow prisoners who sacrificed their own food, safety and lives for the sake of others.  The boy who played his violin for all he was worth in a room full of frozen, dying bodies.</p>
<p>There are few more faith-challenging realities than suffering on this scale.  For Elie Wiesel, this Night murdered his God and his faith forever.  One must not glibly respond with easy theological justifications, however sound they may be.  But suffice to say, for me, among other things, these little dots of light are whispers of hope, audible for those who listen for them among the cacophony of white (and yet black) noise which can be so loud at times.  In Christ, God is with us, crying with us, praying with us, shivering with us, sweating, bleeding, and yes, dying with us.</p>
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		<title>a trinity of &#8216;knowledge-lights&#8217;&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Epistemology is the most foundational of topics in philosophy.  How trustworthy is human knowledge?  Or worded another way: How much ‘faith’ (Greek ‘pistis’ for ‘trust’) can we put in what we think we know?  At one end of the spectrum, you have narrow, ‘verificationist’ epistemologies (such as: logical positivism &#38; naive realism) that only trust knowledge that can be ‘verified’ by <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/11/a-trinity-of-knowledge-lights/">a trinity of &#8216;knowledge-lights&#8217;&#8230;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Epistemology is the most foundational of topics in philosophy.  How trustworthy is human knowledge?  Or worded another way: How much ‘faith’ (Greek <em>‘pistis’ </em>for ‘trust’) can we put in what we think we know?  At one end of the spectrum, you have narrow, ‘verificationist’ epistemologies (such as: logical positivism &amp; naive realism) that only trust knowledge that can be ‘verified’ by empirical methods.  At the other, you have skeptical ‘post modern’ epistemologies (such as the phenomenalism of Maurice Merleau-Ponty &#8211; <em>The Phenomenology of Perception</em>) which hold that all we can truly ‘know’ is the ‘sense data’ of our perceptions.In his book, <em>The New Testament and the People of God,</em> N.T. Wright follows the thought of renowned Catholic philosopher Bernard Lonergan (particularly his Generalised Empirical Method) discussing a kind of middle-way between positivism and phenomenalism: ‘critical realism’.  Elsewhere, he has described an ‘epistemology of love’, where love is that which a) respects the ‘otherness’ of the other, while at the same time b) remaining in rich subjective relationship to it.  Critical realism is first critical in that it is aware of its potential for self-deception and the distortion of perception, but it is not so critical that it does not take the second post-critical step of then daring to describe the reality it believes it actually ‘knows’.</p>
<p>I’ve been recently intrigued, however, by a talk on Epistemology by Mark Strom (audio <a title="Mark Strom on Epistemology" href="http://admin.resonate.org.nz/media/1562" target="_blank">here</a>) where he claims that <em>all </em>human knowledge involves not only acts of love, but also faith and hope.  I find this <em>really</em> compelling.  Our knowledge of any activity, person, principle or thing involves faith, hope and love &#8211; in some form, and at some level.</p>
<p>Scientific knowledge, for an interesting example, involves all three.  The natural scientist must first have faith (Greek <em>pistis</em>, meaning ‘trust’) that his object of study, the natural world, will, under the exact same conditions, always behave exactly the same way in the present and future as we’ve observed it to in the past.  She also hopes that the hunch followed will be fruitful, that the experiment designed will be sufficient, and that the knowledge gained will be helpful and worthwhile. And finally, there is also love &#8211; the relational dynamism between a subject and object; in the case of science, between the observer and the observed, the cosmologist and the cosmos, the neurologist and the neurons.</p>
<p><em>Faith, hope and love</em> (I thought for a few minutes today), then can be thought of as the ‘vehicles’ by which knowledge comes to us.  However, this, I decided, is too anthropocentric a metaphor.  Better to see them as ‘lights’ by which we are enabled to ‘see’ Truth.  But of course, this vision remains imperfect, blurry and ‘dim’…</p>
<p><strong>Love never ends. Prophecies? They will be set aside. Tongues? They will cease. <em>Knowledge? It will be set aside</em>.</strong><strong><em> </em><em>For we know in part</em>, and we prophesy in part, but when what is perfect comes, the partial will be set aside. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then we will see face to face. <em>Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, just as I have been fully known</em>. </strong><strong>And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love.”</strong> &#8211; Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians 13:8-13</p>
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		<title>finished</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been a good little while since I&#8217;ve posted, because I&#8217;ve been finishing my undergrad degree  I&#8217;ve turned in my last essay just this Sunday, which was one of two larger (6,000 word) research projects.  I attach links to the PDFs below.</p> <p>Upon graduation in March, I will officially have three qualifications, one related to building houses, and two <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/11/finished/">finished</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been a good little while since I&#8217;ve posted, because I&#8217;ve been finishing my undergrad degree <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;ve turned in my last essay just this Sunday, which was one of two larger (6,000 word) research projects.  I attach links to the PDFs below.</p>
<p>Upon graduation in March, I will officially have three qualifications, one related to building houses, and two related to &#8216;building up&#8217; people <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>AAS (Associate of Applied Science: Building Materials Merchandising)<br />
DipPL (Diploma of Pastoral Leadership)<br />
BappTheol (Bachelor of Applied Theology)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what my posting regularity or content will be like.  Time will tell.  But anyway, here are those PDFs.</p>
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<li>“<strong>orientation –disorientation –reorientation</strong>”<strong>(<a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Orientation-Disorientation-Reorientation.pdf">PDF</a>)</strong> a thematic integrative research project on homosexuality –Myk Habets, supervisor</li>
<li>“<strong>alternative currency: An Economic Contrast of the Harlot &amp; Bride in John’s Apocalypse &amp; Implications for Alternative Ecclesiology in Consumptive Culture</strong>”<strong>(<a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Alternative-Currency.pdf">PDF</a>)</strong> theological research paper –Andrew Picard, supervisor</li>
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		<title>we might be surprised&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 04:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>how much&#8230; destruction is at work in the &#8216;best&#8217; of people&#8230; and how much&#8230; grace is at work in the &#8216;worst&#8217; of people.</p> <p>in other words&#8230;</p> <p>you&#8217;re never so good that you&#8217;re beyond the influence of evil and&#8230; you&#8217;re never so bad that you&#8217;re beyond the reach of God.</p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how much&#8230;<br />
destruction is at work in the &#8216;best&#8217; of people&#8230;<br />
and how much&#8230;<br />
grace is at work in the &#8216;worst&#8217; of people.</p>
<p>in other words&#8230;</p>
<p>you&#8217;re never so good that you&#8217;re beyond the influence of evil<br />
and&#8230;<br />
you&#8217;re never so bad that you&#8217;re beyond the reach of God.</p>
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		<title>lamb power</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 22:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long held the view that God doesn&#8217;t always get what God wants/wills/desires.  It seems fundamentally basic to me.</p> <p>Because, there is more than one way to be omnipotent.</p> <p>By way of analogy, take my non-omnipotence&#8230; my mere potency.  I possess the &#8216;ability&#8217;, or &#8216;power&#8217; or &#8216;potency&#8217; to do this or that thing.  I am, within the laws of physics, <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/05/lamb-power/">lamb power</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long held the view that God doesn&#8217;t always get what God wants/wills/desires.  It seems fundamentally basic to me.</p>
<p>Because, there is more than <em>one</em> way to be omnipotent.</p>
<p>By way of analogy, take my non-omnipotence&#8230; my mere potency.  I possess the &#8216;ability&#8217;, or &#8216;power&#8217; or &#8216;potency&#8217; to do this or that thing.  I am, within the laws of physics, I suppose, free to do what I like.  In parenting Thomas, I have the power to be harsh or lax, smothering or distant, coercive or cold, forceful or far-off (or hopefully somewhere in-between).</p>
<p>If we take God&#8217;s existence (or &#8216;super-Existence&#8217; or some word we don&#8217;t have, etc.) as a given, the possible extremes for God&#8217;s mode of interaction with the world are a kind of indifferent and distant deism (like a cold, careless father), or a manipulative, coercive dictator (like a harsh, smothering mother).</p>
<p>The biblical story develops.  Sometimes God seems to be distant, and sometimes God seems in intervene in ways that are quite sudden and forceful.  But as time and the story unfolds, the picture of God <em>develops</em>.  And this development is (as we&#8217;d expect &#8211; and like unto the development of, for example, science) characterised by both continuity and discontinuity.  But at any rate, God is never perfectly known &#8211; not yet anyway (1 Cor. 13:9).</p>
<p>But what does happen is that the New Testament authors are convinced that in Jesus of Nazareth, they have seen God in a way that is truly an &#8216;unveiling&#8217;.  The author of Hebrews contrasts the former God-speech from prophets and such like (Hebrews 1:1-2), with the recent unveiling of the &#8216;express image&#8217; of God&#8217;s person (v3).  The book of Revelation could be called literally &#8216;the unveiling/uncovering of Jesus Christ&#8217;.</p>
<p>One of the most striking, unintuitive and &#8216;you&#8217;d-have-never-guessed-God-would-be-like-this&#8217; aspects of the revelation of God in Jesus is that God&#8217;s omnipotence is the kind of omnipotence that is best pictured by a bloodied animal.  A lamb. On a throne.</p>
<p>This God is neither distant, nor a dictator.  This God suffers with us, and conquers the sin and evil that has literally ruined the world.  This God&#8217;s omnipotence is best described as lamb power.</p>
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		<title>on jesus&#8217; quiet resurrection</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 00:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Q: Why does no Roman historian mention Jesus&#8217; resurrection!?  Surely if something so extraordinary happened, they would have written about it!?</p> <p>A: One thing we know about the period is that, from a Graeco-Roman perspective, bodily life after death would have been mocked1 and undesirable2.  This is why the Gospel (to which the Resurrection of Jesus is an essential and <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/05/on-jesus-quiet-resurrection/">on jesus&#8217; quiet resurrection</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: Why does no Roman historian mention Jesus&#8217; resurrection!?  Surely if something so extraordinary happened, they would have written about it!?</p>
<p>A: One thing we know about the period is that, from a Graeco-Roman perspective, bodily life after death would have been mocked<sup><a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/05/on-jesus-quiet-resurrection/#footnote_0_1658" id="identifier_0_1658" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="i.e. the mixed response to Paul&amp;#8217;s preaching of resurrection (Acts 17).">1</a></sup> and undesirable<sup><a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/05/on-jesus-quiet-resurrection/#footnote_1_1658" id="identifier_1_1658" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="for example, see Plutarch on desirable mode of post-mortem departure &amp;#8220;Yes, it [the soul] comes from them, and to them it returns, not with its body, but  only when it is most completely separated and set free from the body,  and becomes altogether pure, fleshless, and undefiled. For  				&lsquo;a dry soul is best,&rsquo; according to Heracleitus, and it flies from the body as lightning flashes from a cloud. But the  soul which is contaminated with body, and surfeited with body, like a  damp and heavy exhalation, is slow to release itself and slow to rise  towards its source.&amp;#8221; [source]">2</a></sup>.  This is why the Gospel (to which the Resurrection of Jesus is an essential and central) was &#8220;foolishness to the Greeks&#8221; (1 Corinthians 1).  Also, they wouldn&#8217;t have had much concern over what happened in Jerusalem, that comparatively small city which was so significant to those of that Jewish religion which they tolerated so mercifully.  A typical first-century mocking response to the announcement of Jesus&#8217; resurrection might be something like: &#8220;Oh really&#8230; then why does all the power, authority, glory and riches still lie with Caesar in Rome?  Silly Jew&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1658" class="footnote">i.e. the mixed response to Paul&#8217;s preaching of resurrection (Acts 17).</li><li id="footnote_1_1658" class="footnote">for example, see Plutarch on desirable mode of post-mortem departure &#8220;Yes, it [the soul] comes from them, and to them it returns, not with its body, but  only when it is most completely separated and set free from the body,  and becomes altogether pure, fleshless, and undefiled. For  				‘a dry soul is best,’ according to Heracleitus, and it flies from the body as lightning flashes from a cloud. But the  soul which is contaminated with body, and surfeited with body, like a  damp and heavy exhalation, is slow to release itself and slow to rise  towards its source.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0061%3Achapter%3D28%3Asection%3D7">source</a>]</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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