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		<title>rights and responsibilities</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Three recent events, a complaint about a sermon, a movie about Margaret Thatcher and a FB conversation about gun laws, have me reflecting on the tendencies of &#8216;left-wingers&#8217; and &#8216;right-wingers&#8217;.  Both left and right folk will express concern for both &#8216;rights&#8217; and &#8216;responsibilities&#8217;, but at different times.</p> <p>On the topic of social welfare: the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of the <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/rights-and-responsibilities/">rights and responsibilities</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three recent events, a complaint about a sermon, a movie about Margaret Thatcher and a FB conversation about gun laws, have me reflecting on the tendencies of &#8216;left-wingers&#8217; and &#8216;right-wingers&#8217;.  Both left and right folk will express concern for both &#8216;rights&#8217; and &#8216;responsibilities&#8217;, but at different times.</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of social welfare:</strong><br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of the poor/unemployed<br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of the poor/unemployed</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of gun laws:</strong><br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of gun owners<br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of gun ownership/use</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of war:</strong><br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of all humans to have peace<br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of defending peace</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of abortion:</strong><br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of the woman<br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of the man and woman</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of &#8216;the environment&#8217;:</strong><br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of individuals and businesses<br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of individuals and businesses</p>
<p>In all of these scenarios, I am interested in embracing the tension between BOTH rights AND responsibilities.  I&#8217;m interested in BOTH short-term practicalities, AND long-term wisdom.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in <strong>social policy</strong> that is both generous and sustainable &#8211; that avoids the extremes of too much or too little assistance, which (ironically) both end up cementing the poor in their poverty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in <strong>gun laws</strong> that are both practical and wise &#8211; that avoid the foolish extremes of taking guns away or assuming that no regulation is needed at all &#8211; both of which will end up causing harm.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in a <strong>military policy</strong> that is both prepared to use force, and seeks to be accountable to human rights &#8211; avoiding the extremes of an idealistic and passive pacifism on one hand, and a short-sighted/arrogant agression on the other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in an <strong>abortion policy</strong> that is committed to the quality and quantity of life for both the pre-born human and the mother (and father, family&#8230;) &#8211; avoiding the extremes of an idealistic, legislate-heaven-to-earth, fantasy on one hand, and a careless, inhumane, abortion-as-contraception nightmare on the other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in <strong>environmental policy</strong> that uses both legislation and education to motivate people and businesses to care for creation &#8211; avoiding the extremes of avoidance and assumptions that all is OK on one hand, and aggressive, undemocratic pushing through of eco-laws on the other.</p>
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		<title>finished</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been a good little while since I&#8217;ve posted, because I&#8217;ve been finishing my undergrad degree  I&#8217;ve turned in my last essay just this Sunday, which was one of two larger (6,000 word) research projects.  I attach links to the PDFs below.</p> <p>Upon graduation in March, I will officially have three qualifications, one related to building houses, and two <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/11/finished/">finished</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been a good little while since I&#8217;ve posted, because I&#8217;ve been finishing my undergrad degree <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;ve turned in my last essay just this Sunday, which was one of two larger (6,000 word) research projects.  I attach links to the PDFs below.</p>
<p>Upon graduation in March, I will officially have three qualifications, one related to building houses, and two related to &#8216;building up&#8217; people <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>AAS (Associate of Applied Science: Building Materials Merchandising)<br />
DipPL (Diploma of Pastoral Leadership)<br />
BappTheol (Bachelor of Applied Theology)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what my posting regularity or content will be like.  Time will tell.  But anyway, here are those PDFs.</p>
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<li>“<strong>orientation –disorientation –reorientation</strong>”<strong>(<a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Orientation-Disorientation-Reorientation.pdf">PDF</a>)</strong> a thematic integrative research project on homosexuality –Myk Habets, supervisor</li>
<li>“<strong>alternative currency: An Economic Contrast of the Harlot &amp; Bride in John’s Apocalypse &amp; Implications for Alternative Ecclesiology in Consumptive Culture</strong>”<strong>(<a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Alternative-Currency.pdf">PDF</a>)</strong> theological research paper –Andrew Picard, supervisor</li>
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		<title>prophecy &amp; politics</title>
		<link>http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/04/prophecy-politics/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=prophecy-politics</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;funny how most (not all!) American Christians are happy to &#8216;get political&#8217; when it comes to abortion and gay marriage (&#8216;Oh yes, let&#8217;s fight for godly legislation!&#8217;), but scream &#8216;socialism&#8217; when it comes to issues like benefits for poor, out of work, or infirm people &#8211; or (shock, horror) free health care&#8230;</p> <p>Doom to you who legislate evil, who make <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/04/prophecy-politics/">prophecy &#038; politics</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;funny how most (not all!) American Christians are happy to &#8216;get political&#8217; when it comes to abortion and gay marriage (&#8216;Oh yes, let&#8217;s fight for godly legislation!&#8217;), but scream &#8216;socialism&#8217; when it comes to issues like benefits for poor, out of work, or infirm people &#8211; or (shock, horror) free health care&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Doom to you who legislate evil, who make laws that make victims—<br />
Laws that make misery for the poor,<br />
that rob my destitute people of dignity,<br />
exploiting defenseless widows,<br />
taking advantage of homeless children.</p>
<p>What will you have to say on Judgment Day,<br />
when Doomsday arrives out of the blue?<br />
Who will you get to help you?<br />
What good will your money do you?</p>
<p><em><strong>Isaiah 10:1-3 (The Message)</strong></em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>rapists into lovers?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Just reading those intro chapters of Genesis, and I noticed what seems quite a contrast between the human vocation statements in the two creation stories.</p> Gen 1:28 says humans are to &#8216;fill&#8216; (מָלֵא mala - be full; fill) and &#8216;subdue&#8216; (כָּבַשׁ kabash - be raped; subjugate; be humiliated; etc.) the earth&#8230; Then Gen 2:15 says they are to &#8216;tend&#8216; (עָבַד <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/01/rapists-into-lovers/">rapists into lovers?</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reading those intro chapters of Genesis, and I noticed what seems  quite a contrast between the human vocation statements in the two  creation stories.</p>
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<li> Gen 1:28 says humans are to &#8216;<strong>fill</strong>&#8216; (מָלֵא <em>mala </em>- be full; fill) and &#8216;<strong>subdue</strong>&#8216; (כָּבַשׁ <em>kabash </em>- be raped; subjugate; be humiliated; etc.) the earth&#8230;</li>
<li>Then Gen 2:15 says they are to &#8216;<strong>tend</strong>&#8216; (עָבַד <em>abad</em> &#8211; work, serve) and &#8216;<strong>keep</strong>&#8216; (שָׁמַר <em>shamar </em>- keep, watch, preserve) it.</li>
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<p>Quite striking! The first has images of conquest; of a top-down power play&#8230; The second has images of care-giving; of a bottom-up servant-hood&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder if this would be the starting place for a biblical theme of violence?  Perhaps, just as there is a tension between priestly (pro-temple)  accounts and prophetic (pro-justice) accounts in the OT, this also  evidences a tension between understandings concerning violence and  war&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and just as Jesus agreed with the prophets (over against the &#8216;religious&#8217; priests), he also agreed with those who were the servants and preservers of creation (over against the violent ones who would kill for religious liberty)!</p>
<p>Thoughts and insights welcome.</p>
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		<title>teenagers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had recent ponderings about the increasing violence, recklessness, selfishness, and hedonism of many young NZers represented in the news.   Oh sure, there are some sterling exceptions, but not enough.  I&#8217;m a pastor for youth, and I am for youth, not against them&#8230; but the reality of how things are saddens me.</p> <p>I&#8217;ve said it in person, though probably not <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/11/teenagers/">teenagers</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had recent ponderings about the increasing violence, recklessness, selfishness, and hedonism of many young NZers represented in the news.   Oh sure, there are some sterling exceptions, but not enough.  I&#8217;m a pastor for youth, and I am for youth, not against them&#8230; but the reality of how things are saddens me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it in person, though probably not here: though humans have always been and will always be a mixed bag and swinging pendulum of both wretchedness and radiance, mod-western teens are an historical/geographical rarity.  The difference: the very recent and unwise concept of &#8216;teenager&#8217; (being [be]t[w]een the age of child and adult).  It&#8217;s post WWII stuff &#8211; that recent.  These human beings have almost certainly the highest options-to-responsibilities ratio in the history of humanity.</p>
<p>We expect almost nothing from them, and that&#8217;s what we get.  We expect them to consume resources &amp; time and many do just that and no more.  Meanwhile, the rest of the 13-19 yr olds around the world and throughout human history were a) viewed as an adult (usually entering adulthood through rites of passage &#8211; such as a Bar Mitzvah), and b) had the responsibilities of an adult.</p>
<p>At home, at school, and in towns/cities, these kids need jobs to do.  They have intellect, energy and creativity and it so often gets wasted.  Here&#8217;s to them getting the support and guidance (starting with a few parents who need a rather massive wake-up call) they need to be all they can be!</p>
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		<title>fiery survivor of abortion</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Here (I don&#8217;t know if you have to have a Facebook account or not).</p> <p>On emotion. This morning an abortion-activist (pro) was on TV &#8211; then this evening I get forwarded this.  My wife&#8217;s comment about the activist this morning was that she seemed far too &#8216;clinical&#8217; about a very sensitive issue.</p> <p>On free speech. Both sides (and various positions <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/10/fiery-survivor-of-abortion/">fiery survivor of abortion</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=158348990848143">Here</a> (I don&#8217;t know if you have to have a Facebook account or not).</p>
<p><strong>On emotion. </strong>This morning an abortion-activist (pro) was on TV &#8211; then this evening I get forwarded this.  My wife&#8217;s comment about the activist this morning was that she seemed far too &#8216;clinical&#8217; about a very sensitive issue.</p>
<p><strong>On free speech.</strong> Both sides (and various positions in between) have reasons to say that emotive statements from the other side are offensive, and hurtful.  Whilst I strive for an approach that tries to respect emotions <em>and</em> protect life, when push comes to shove, life is more worth protecting than emotions.</p>
<p><strong>On reality.</strong> The reality is a rainbow of varied circumstances.  In the mix of those considering abortion will be a tiny percentage of women who&#8217;ve tragically suffered rape, incest, or a combination of the two.  Also in the mix will be a less-than-tiny percentage of women (and their absentee male partners and absentee community/family/friend support) who <em>just don&#8217;t want to be bothered with the responsibility of parenthood</em> (not to mention a sexual relationship).  It is naive to say that selfishness is not part of the picture, and non-PC to say that it is.</p>
<p><strong>On relationships.</strong> Abortion is one part of a problem with sexual ethics, which is one part of a problem with human relationships in general.   Sadly, modern/western (read: over-convenienced, over-entertained, over-bandwidth-ed, over-socialised, etc.) people have few friends/family that they have a deep/trusting enough of a relationship to be able to a) get the support they need (before and after the unplanned/unwanted/inconvenient pregnancy), and b) have loving truth spoken to them when needed.</p>
<p><strong>On urgency.</strong> Whilst screaming &#8216;murder&#8217;, &#8216;genocide&#8217; or using phrases like &#8216;silent holocaust&#8217; are maybe not advisable, this is still a freaking life &amp; death issue.</p>
<p><strong>On law.</strong> If you know me at all, I&#8217;m not for Christians trying to enforce our beliefs through law.  But if the role of government is not to protect life (survival first, quality of life and personal &#8216;rights&#8217; second), then I don&#8217;t know what government is for.  This is one hairy beast of a problem, and I don&#8217;t claim easy fixes.  In isolated and short-term cases, an abortion of a 3-day old foetus may look &#8216;better&#8217; than a drugged-addicted teenage couple being non-parents.  Though there has to be some form of legislation to protect life and people from their own selfishness and indifference, merely making abortion illegal wouldn&#8217;t solve the problem.  Whatever one thinks about free abortions or free contraception, etc., hopefully we can agree that families, communities, and yes, even nations <em></em>need to stop band-aid-ing the problem and address the sexuality and relational confusion that underlies all of this.  &#8220;To each their own&#8221; (or &#8220;live and let live&#8221;) is so indifferent and uncaring a philosophy it might as well be hatred.</p>
<p><strong>On increasingly moralistic society.</strong> Has anyone else noticed how moralistic society is?  Ads telling people to confront each other about their drinking, and warning people about speeding, and a host of other examples.  This is surface stuff that belies a deep uncertainty about just what to do about some issues.  Tolerance, like &#8216;rights&#8217;, only goes so far.  Convictions, values, responsibilities and real community will go further toward societal change than more laws and more guilt.</p>
<p><strong>On long blog posts.</strong> Sorry y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>two water related parables</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>We need the healthy idealism reflected in the parable of the starfish.  One single act has value even in a sea (or in this case, beach) of hopelessness.</p> <p>But we also need the wisdom reflected in the parable of the river.  We must not fight the problem, but find the source of the problem.  (Reminds me of the Dom Helder <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/10/two-water-related-parables/">two water related parables</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need the healthy <em>idealism </em>reflected in <a href="http://www.racematters.org/theparableofthestarfish.htm">the parable of the starfish</a>.  One single act has value even in a sea (or in this case, beach) of hopelessness.</p>
<p>But we also need the <em>wisdom </em>reflected in <a href="http://www.healthymarinpartnership.org/MCNA/Parable%20of%20the%20River_files/slide0001.htm">the parable of the river</a>.  We must not fight the problem, but find the source of the problem.  (Reminds me of the <a href="http://www.xaviermissionaries.org/M_Life/NL_Archives/99-N_Lett/BR_Helder_Camara.htm">Dom Helder Camara</a> quote: &#8220;I feed the poor, I’m called a saint.  I ask why the poor have no food, I’m called a communist.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>easy hard</title>
		<link>http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/09/easy-hard/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=easy-hard</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>quick reflections:</p> It&#8217;s easy to paint Islam as a) inherently evil/violent or b) docile/dormant and harmless &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to patiently assess what Islam is actually like. It&#8217;s easy to tell a woman considering abortion a) that she&#8217;s a murderer or b) that whatever choice she makes is the right choice &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to journey patiently, lovingly, understandingly, etc-ingly, <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/09/easy-hard/">easy hard</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quick reflections:</p>
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<li>It&#8217;s <em>easy </em>to paint Islam as a) inherently evil/violent or b) docile/dormant and harmless &#8211; it&#8217;s <em>hard</em> to patiently assess what Islam is actually like.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s <em>easy</em> to tell a woman considering abortion a) that she&#8217;s a murderer or b) that whatever choice she makes is the right choice &#8211; it&#8217;s <em>hard</em> to journey patiently, lovingly, understandingly, etc-ingly, with not only the her, but the father, her family, her friends, her community in and through difficult and complex times.</li>
<li>(repeat with all kinds of issues&#8230;)</li>
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		<title>distance</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; I&#8217;m trying hard to be sensitive to people&#8217;s feelings, but how many blocks does this proposed mosque have to be away from ground zero before it doesn&#8217;t offend people?</p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; I&#8217;m trying hard to be sensitive to people&#8217;s feelings, but how many blocks does this proposed mosque have to be away from ground zero before it doesn&#8217;t offend people?</p>
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		<title>legistlating morality</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 23:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Every law that has ever been written &#8220;legislates morality&#8221;, because every issue is a moral issue.</p> <p>Shame on the American, Bible-belt, Republicanist, sub-Christian sub-culture which taught me as a new Christian that vote for GW Bush was a vote for the &#8216;moral&#8217; candidate. Yes – marriage and abortion are HUGE moral issues (of which I would expect the state to <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/05/legistlating-morality/">legistlating morality</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every law that has ever been written &#8220;legislates morality&#8221;, because every issue is a moral issue.</p>
<p>Shame on the American, Bible-belt, Republicanist, sub-Christian sub-culture which taught me as a new Christian that vote for GW Bush was a vote for the &#8216;moral&#8217; candidate.  Yes – marriage and abortion are HUGE moral issues (of which I would expect the state to have more direct role in governing the latter, as it is – at its best – the protection of life itself), but are not the environment, foreign policy, the economy, education, etc. also moral issues!?</p>
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