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		<title>helped helpers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long held that disabled persons have a gift.</p> <p>Albeit is is a gift that few if anyone want.  But some of the most mature, caring people I&#8217;ve known (in my youth work and elsewhere) have been people who have had the privilege (one nobody asks for) of having a sibling or child who is disabled. Disabled people teach us <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/helped-helpers/">helped helpers</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long held that disabled persons have a gift.</p>
<p>Albeit is is a gift that few if anyone want.  But some of the most mature, caring people I&#8217;ve known (in my youth work and elsewhere) have been people who have had the privilege (one nobody asks for) of having a sibling or child who is disabled. Disabled people teach us to care.</p>
<p>But in this post, I wanted to record a different thought I had related to disability &#8211; and it might have the potential to be a bit controversial.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that there is much effort to help disabled persons to be as &#8216;independent&#8217; as possible.  To live in their own place, to get their own groceries, to drive their own car &#8211; that sort of thing.</p>
<p>I guess my question is when does the good, humane task of helping someone &#8216;stand on their own two feet&#8217; (so to speak) become something that &#8216;helps&#8217; them into a lifestyle that is isolating, individualistic and thus inhumane?</p>
<p>I have a conviction that humans are made to be burdens to one another, and yet it is resisted both by those who fear <em>being</em> the burden, and by those who fear <em>bearing</em> the burden.  This resistance, I&#8217;m convinced (and admit to in my own experience and choices), is part of the pressure of living in an individualistic society where &#8216;freedom&#8217; is defined by how many (often consumer) options one has.</p>
<p>More choices, though, can be an enslaving thing.  I know a disabled person who has (again) been placed in a living situation that isolates them, makes them feel intensely lonely, and contributes to them seeking out friends that encourage behaviour that has got them into legal trouble multiple times.</p>
<p>But this person, like all of us at times, resists the help that they need so much.  I once threw out my back trying to &#8211; at the last minute &#8211; shift all my possessions between dwelling places.  Help is not easy to ask for &#8211; disabled or not.  And help is not easy to give.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m just wondering.  Should we &#8216;help&#8217; disabled people to become like us?  People who too often don&#8217;t know how to ask for help?  Thoughts welcome.</p>
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		<title>rights and responsibilities</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Three recent events, a complaint about a sermon, a movie about Margaret Thatcher and a FB conversation about gun laws, have me reflecting on the tendencies of &#8216;left-wingers&#8217; and &#8216;right-wingers&#8217;.  Both left and right folk will express concern for both &#8216;rights&#8217; and &#8216;responsibilities&#8217;, but at different times.</p> <p>On the topic of social welfare: the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of the <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2012/01/rights-and-responsibilities/">rights and responsibilities</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three recent events, a complaint about a sermon, a movie about Margaret Thatcher and a FB conversation about gun laws, have me reflecting on the tendencies of &#8216;left-wingers&#8217; and &#8216;right-wingers&#8217;.  Both left and right folk will express concern for both &#8216;rights&#8217; and &#8216;responsibilities&#8217;, but at different times.</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of social welfare:</strong><br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of the poor/unemployed<br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of the poor/unemployed</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of gun laws:</strong><br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of gun owners<br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of gun ownership/use</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of war:</strong><br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of all humans to have peace<br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of defending peace</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of abortion:</strong><br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of the woman<br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of the man and woman</p>
<p><strong>On the topic of &#8216;the environment&#8217;:</strong><br />
the right emphasise the &#8216;rights&#8217; of individuals and businesses<br />
the left emphasise the &#8216;responsibilities&#8217; of individuals and businesses</p>
<p>In all of these scenarios, I am interested in embracing the tension between BOTH rights AND responsibilities.  I&#8217;m interested in BOTH short-term practicalities, AND long-term wisdom.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in <strong>social policy</strong> that is both generous and sustainable &#8211; that avoids the extremes of too much or too little assistance, which (ironically) both end up cementing the poor in their poverty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in <strong>gun laws</strong> that are both practical and wise &#8211; that avoid the foolish extremes of taking guns away or assuming that no regulation is needed at all &#8211; both of which will end up causing harm.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in a <strong>military policy</strong> that is both prepared to use force, and seeks to be accountable to human rights &#8211; avoiding the extremes of an idealistic and passive pacifism on one hand, and a short-sighted/arrogant agression on the other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in an <strong>abortion policy</strong> that is committed to the quality and quantity of life for both the pre-born human and the mother (and father, family&#8230;) &#8211; avoiding the extremes of an idealistic, legislate-heaven-to-earth, fantasy on one hand, and a careless, inhumane, abortion-as-contraception nightmare on the other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in <strong>environmental policy</strong> that uses both legislation and education to motivate people and businesses to care for creation &#8211; avoiding the extremes of avoidance and assumptions that all is OK on one hand, and aggressive, undemocratic pushing through of eco-laws on the other.</p>
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		<title>finished</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been a good little while since I&#8217;ve posted, because I&#8217;ve been finishing my undergrad degree  I&#8217;ve turned in my last essay just this Sunday, which was one of two larger (6,000 word) research projects.  I attach links to the PDFs below.</p> <p>Upon graduation in March, I will officially have three qualifications, one related to building houses, and two <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/11/finished/">finished</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been a good little while since I&#8217;ve posted, because I&#8217;ve been finishing my undergrad degree <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;ve turned in my last essay just this Sunday, which was one of two larger (6,000 word) research projects.  I attach links to the PDFs below.</p>
<p>Upon graduation in March, I will officially have three qualifications, one related to building houses, and two related to &#8216;building up&#8217; people <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>AAS (Associate of Applied Science: Building Materials Merchandising)<br />
DipPL (Diploma of Pastoral Leadership)<br />
BappTheol (Bachelor of Applied Theology)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what my posting regularity or content will be like.  Time will tell.  But anyway, here are those PDFs.</p>
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<li>“<strong>orientation –disorientation –reorientation</strong>”<strong>(<a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Orientation-Disorientation-Reorientation.pdf">PDF</a>)</strong> a thematic integrative research project on homosexuality –Myk Habets, supervisor</li>
<li>“<strong>alternative currency: An Economic Contrast of the Harlot &amp; Bride in John’s Apocalypse &amp; Implications for Alternative Ecclesiology in Consumptive Culture</strong>”<strong>(<a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Alternative-Currency.pdf">PDF</a>)</strong> theological research paper –Andrew Picard, supervisor</li>
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		<title>prophecy &amp; politics</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;funny how most (not all!) American Christians are happy to &#8216;get political&#8217; when it comes to abortion and gay marriage (&#8216;Oh yes, let&#8217;s fight for godly legislation!&#8217;), but scream &#8216;socialism&#8217; when it comes to issues like benefits for poor, out of work, or infirm people &#8211; or (shock, horror) free health care&#8230;</p> <p>Doom to you who legislate evil, who make <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/04/prophecy-politics/">prophecy &#038; politics</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;funny how most (not all!) American Christians are happy to &#8216;get political&#8217; when it comes to abortion and gay marriage (&#8216;Oh yes, let&#8217;s fight for godly legislation!&#8217;), but scream &#8216;socialism&#8217; when it comes to issues like benefits for poor, out of work, or infirm people &#8211; or (shock, horror) free health care&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Doom to you who legislate evil, who make laws that make victims—<br />
Laws that make misery for the poor,<br />
that rob my destitute people of dignity,<br />
exploiting defenseless widows,<br />
taking advantage of homeless children.</p>
<p>What will you have to say on Judgment Day,<br />
when Doomsday arrives out of the blue?<br />
Who will you get to help you?<br />
What good will your money do you?</p>
<p><em><strong>Isaiah 10:1-3 (The Message)</strong></em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>eros-anthropos?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 04:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly a bit dated, but a 1998 paper by the Joint Methodist-Presbyterian Public Questions Committee suggested that for those &#8220;whose emotional or physical make-up means that it is unlikely they would ever be able to enter a mutually acceptable and honest physical relationship with another person&#8217;, prostitutes should be provided, and that &#8220;to deny such people any opportunity to express <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/03/eros-anthropos/">eros-anthropos?</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly a bit dated, but a 1998 paper by the Joint Methodist-Presbyterian Public Questions Committee suggested that for those &#8220;whose emotional or physical make-up means that it is unlikely they would ever be able to enter a mutually acceptable and honest physical relationship with another person&#8217;, prostitutes should be provided, and that &#8220;to deny such people any opportunity to express their sexuality physically seems almost inhuman.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly interested in the last bit.  It&#8217;s not hard to see that the statement locates physical sexual expression at or near the core of what it means to be human.  In the sexualised West, it&#8217;s perhaps not surprising to see such an assumption.  Transpose this <em>specific</em> statement (&#8220;It&#8217;s [almost] inhuman to deny people the opportunity to express their sexuality physically.&#8221;), into <em>general </em>key: &#8220;It&#8217;s [almost] inhuman to deny people the opportunity to express any/all forms and expressions of all desires &amp; identities.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>ethical being</title>
		<link>http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/02/ethical-being/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=ethical-being</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 10:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pardon the double negative, but it&#8217;s not for no reason that the title of philosopher, author and atheist, Dr. Erik J. Wielenberg&#8217;s article in a recent issue of the American Theological Inquiry (yes, a theological journal published an article by an atheist) is called &#8220;OBJECTIVE MORALITY AND THE NATURE OF REALITY&#8221;.  Views of morality and reality are inseparable.  Ontology is <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/02/ethical-being/">ethical being</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon the double negative, but it&#8217;s not for no reason that the title of philosopher, author and atheist, Dr. Erik J. Wielenberg&#8217;s article in a recent <a href="http://atijournal.org/Vol3No2.htm">issue</a> of the American Theological Inquiry (yes, a theological journal published an article by an atheist) is called &#8220;OBJECTIVE MORALITY AND THE NATURE OF REALITY&#8221;.  Views of morality and reality are inseparable.  Ontology is logically prior to ethics.  One&#8217;s views on &#8216;ought&#8217; are based on one&#8217;s views on &#8216;is&#8217;. <sup><a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/02/ethical-being/#footnote_0_1618" id="identifier_0_1618" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="I should say before going further that not all atheists argue for &amp;#8216;objective&amp;#8217; morality.&nbsp; Many happily admit that it is subjective.&nbsp; Here I&amp;#8217;m only interacting with those atheists who, like Wielenberg, argue for objective morality.">1</a></sup></p>
<p>My claim is this: It seems to me that atheism is characterised by a <em>circular ontology</em> &#8211; both <em>quantitatively </em>and <em>qualitatively.</em></p>
<p>First, <strong>Atheistic Quantitative Ontology</strong> is circular in that it is <strong>self-referential.</strong> The arrow of logical explanation does  not point beyond reality to an other, but turns back onto itself.  Ultimate explanation rests in nature it<strong><em>self</em></strong> and not in any <em><strong>other</strong></em> entity.  Reality as a whole (whether we call it nature, the universe or the multiverse) doesn&#8217;t need anything &#8216;else&#8217; besides it<em><strong>self</strong></em> to be completely, fully and finally &#8216;explained&#8217;, and reality is <em><strong>self</strong></em>-caused, <em><strong>self</strong></em>-originating and <em><strong>self</strong></em>-ordered.  Sagan transposed the Judeo-Christian meaning of the name YHWH into a naturalistic key with the assertion &#8220;The universe is all that there is, all there ever was, and all that there ever will be.&#8221;  Self-existent reality is also self-explanatory.  The lid of reality is closed. <sup><a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/02/ethical-being/#footnote_1_1618" id="identifier_1_1618" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="Humble atheists will acknowledge that because proving a negative is impossible, they cannot absolutely rule out a G(g)od, but they confidently assert that reality is fully &amp;#8216;explained&amp;#8217; (&amp;#8216;or at least can be in principle&amp;#8217; some will say) without recourse to any kind of G(g)od.">2</a></sup></p>
<p>Second, <strong>Atheistic Qualitative Ontology </strong>(a la Wielenberg) is circular and self-referential in that it claims that basic moral value is self-explanatory, or to use langauge more proper to the field of ethics, that it needs no foundation (!!!).  Here&#8217;s some relevant excerpts from his article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Objective morality, on this view, has no foundation external to <em>itself</em>. (p77, emphasis mine)</p>
<p>I propose, then, that objective morality rests on a foundation composed of brute ethical facts. Such ethical facts are foundational in at least two senses. First, they are ontologically foundational. By this, I mean that they have no explanation outside of themselves; no further facts make them true. Second, they are epistemologically foundational. By this, I mean that they can be known to be true in a direct way; they need not be inferred from other things that we know. (p79)</p>
<p>&#8230;moral properties (such as goodness) supervene or depend upon non-moral properties. Thus, if a given entity is good, it is good in virtue of or because of certain non-moral properties of that entity. Pleasure, for instance, is good because of the qualitative feel that pleasure has. Persons are valuable, and possess certain rights, because of certain capacities they have—for instance, the capacity to experience pain, and to reason. (p80)</p>
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<p>The last quotation is particularly revealing of this qualitative ontological circularity.<em></em> Pleasure is said to be &#8216;good&#8217; (the most basic or foundational of qualitative, ontological judgments!) simply because of &#8216;the qualitative feel&#8217; it has.  In other words, pleasure is good because it is pleasurable.  The foundation for the qualitative value is the qualitative judgment itself.  He expands on this later in the article, laying out this &#8220;brute ethical fact&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Necessarily, any being that can reason, suffer, experience happiness, tell the difference between right and wrong, choose between right and wrong, and set goals for itself has certain rights, including the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and certain obligations, including the duty to refrain from rape (in typical circumstances).</p>
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<p>Not only are &#8216;right and wrong&#8217; (which the said being is meant to distinguish between!) undefined (which is the entire point of the wider discussion), but he also fails to explain why or how entities with &#8216;the capacity to experience pain, and to reason&#8217; come to have &#8216;rights&#8217; and &#8216;obligations&#8217;.</p>
<p>In summary of what became a longer post than intended:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Atheistic <em>Quantitative</em> Ontology</strong> asserts that reality &#8220;just is&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>Atheistic <em>Qualitative</em> Ontology</strong> asserts that certain things are &#8220;just good&#8221;</li>
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<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1618" class="footnote">I should say before going further that not all atheists argue for &#8216;objective&#8217; morality.  Many happily admit that it is subjective.  Here I&#8217;m only interacting with those atheists who, like Wielenberg, argue for objective morality.</li><li id="footnote_1_1618" class="footnote">Humble atheists will acknowledge that because proving a negative is impossible, they cannot absolutely rule out a G(g)od, but they confidently assert that reality is fully &#8216;explained&#8217; (&#8216;or at least can be in principle&#8217; some will say) without recourse to any kind of G(g)od.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>mother nature as killer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The notion is reflected commonly in popular discourse.  Humans wreck the planet and the earth, the universe, or nature &#8216;fights back&#8217;.  Noah&#8217;s flood, local or global is nothing compared to what our angry step-mother-nature will do if we don&#8217;t change our ways and look after the planet better&#8230; Makes an entertaining novel, movie, etc.</p> <p>Because in our culture, we are <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/01/mother-nature-as-killer/">mother nature as killer</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The notion is reflected commonly in popular discourse.  Humans wreck the planet and the earth, the universe, or nature &#8216;fights back&#8217;.  Noah&#8217;s flood, local or global is nothing compared to what our angry step-mother-nature will do if we don&#8217;t change our ways and look after the planet better&#8230; Makes an entertaining novel, movie, etc.</p>
<p>Because in our culture, we are quite OK with the idea of nature (which has no personality, intentions or consciousness!) being the judge of humanity; but as for God (who is personal, intentional and omniscient), that is simply not acceptable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>want vs. like</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Somewhat related to epistemology (but I&#8217;m not going there now) is the question of how emotion &#38; desire can relate truth or moral guidance.</p> <p>It is often assumed by we post-Romantics that &#8216;doing what you want&#8217; is about the most sinful or dangerous thing imaginable.  &#8216;Doing what is right&#8217; is better, we say; &#8230;and if what is &#8216;right&#8217; happens to <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/01/want-vs-like/">want vs. like</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhat related to epistemology (but I&#8217;m not going there now) is the question of how emotion &amp; desire can relate truth or moral guidance.</p>
<p>It is often assumed by we post-Romantics that &#8216;doing what you want&#8217; is about the most sinful or dangerous thing imaginable.  &#8216;Doing what is right&#8217; is better, we say; &#8230;and if what is &#8216;right&#8217; happens to be what you <em>want</em>, then all the better.  And if what is &#8216;wrong&#8217; is what you want, then well&#8230; either do it quietly or privately or not at all &#8211; if you can.</p>
<p>I believe, however, that desires are not all bad.  I actually wonder if what we call &#8216;bad desires&#8217; are just &#8216;good desires&#8217; that have been distorted, broken, suppressed or otherwise damaged.</p>
<p>But in addition to this, I think we can distinguish between <em>deep, lasting and true desires </em>(&#8216;wants&#8217;) and <em>shallow, fleeting and deceptive desires</em> (&#8216;likes&#8217;).  For example, at a spur of the moment, now, in my face kind of level, I &#8216;like&#8217; a lot of things which I don&#8217;t actually &#8216;want&#8217; at another, long run, after the fact, in my gut kind of level.  Examples can easily be multiplied.</p>
<p>I wonder if we often shortchange ourselves by loading up our lives with &#8216;likes&#8217; instead of carving out time, money, energy, opportunities or space for the &#8216;wants&#8217;.  We look back at our afternoon, day, week, month, year or life and we lament that we didn&#8217;t get what we deeply &#8216;wanted&#8217; (i.e. lasting, healthy relationships), even if we may well have quite often got what we &#8216;liked&#8217; (i.e. this or that must-have gadget).</p>
<p>Sorting out the wants from the likes may well not be an exact science &#8211; who would ever thing it would be? &#8211; but I think we intuitively &#8216;know&#8217; how to do the sorting.  Here&#8217;s to us doing it better.</p>
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		<title>brute moral facts?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not every day you see an article in a theological journal by an atheist.</p> <p>But lo and behold, the latest issue (downloadable here freely) of American Theological Inquiry includes a &#8216;guest&#8217; article by Erik J. Wielenberg called &#8220;Objective Morality and the Nature of Reality&#8221;, which is a rejoinder to a theistic critique in a former issue.  He calls his <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/01/brute-moral-facts/">brute moral facts?</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not every day you see an article in a theological journal by an atheist.</p>
<p>But lo and behold, the latest issue (downloadable <a href="http://atijournal.org/ATI_Vol3_No2.pdf">here</a> freely) of American Theological Inquiry includes a &#8216;guest&#8217; article by Erik J. Wielenberg called &#8220;Objective Morality and the Nature of Reality&#8221;, which is a rejoinder to a theistic critique in a former issue.  He calls his approach  &#8220;non-natural, non-theistic, moral realism&#8221;.  See for yourself, but when he goes on about &#8220;brute moral facts&#8221; and doesn&#8217;t seem worried that they are without any foundation, I just don&#8217;t follow him at all (not that I think the fellow he is critiquing has it sussed either).</p>
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		<title>rapists into lovers?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Just reading those intro chapters of Genesis, and I noticed what seems quite a contrast between the human vocation statements in the two creation stories.</p> Gen 1:28 says humans are to &#8216;fill&#8216; (מָלֵא mala - be full; fill) and &#8216;subdue&#8216; (כָּבַשׁ kabash - be raped; subjugate; be humiliated; etc.) the earth&#8230; Then Gen 2:15 says they are to &#8216;tend&#8216; (עָבַד <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2011/01/rapists-into-lovers/">rapists into lovers?</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reading those intro chapters of Genesis, and I noticed what seems  quite a contrast between the human vocation statements in the two  creation stories.</p>
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<li> Gen 1:28 says humans are to &#8216;<strong>fill</strong>&#8216; (מָלֵא <em>mala </em>- be full; fill) and &#8216;<strong>subdue</strong>&#8216; (כָּבַשׁ <em>kabash </em>- be raped; subjugate; be humiliated; etc.) the earth&#8230;</li>
<li>Then Gen 2:15 says they are to &#8216;<strong>tend</strong>&#8216; (עָבַד <em>abad</em> &#8211; work, serve) and &#8216;<strong>keep</strong>&#8216; (שָׁמַר <em>shamar </em>- keep, watch, preserve) it.</li>
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<p>Quite striking! The first has images of conquest; of a top-down power play&#8230; The second has images of care-giving; of a bottom-up servant-hood&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder if this would be the starting place for a biblical theme of violence?  Perhaps, just as there is a tension between priestly (pro-temple)  accounts and prophetic (pro-justice) accounts in the OT, this also  evidences a tension between understandings concerning violence and  war&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and just as Jesus agreed with the prophets (over against the &#8216;religious&#8217; priests), he also agreed with those who were the servants and preservers of creation (over against the violent ones who would kill for religious liberty)!</p>
<p>Thoughts and insights welcome.</p>
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