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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but it&#039;s actually quite easy to ask - so easy that I suppose it&#039;d be quite a task to find people who haven&#039;t asked it in one way or another - and given answers which are at least provisional, logical, reasonable (which is probably as much as anyone could expect). :)
More than that, I could just as easily reject your rejection; and claim that your concept of rejection also arises from within A.T.U.M.E. :)
Note that in the O.P., I never claim some kind of perfect epistemic surety - only that the options were &#039;logical&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree or not: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-3684" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/2_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3684', 'add', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '2_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3684-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-3684" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/2_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3684', 'subtract', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '2_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3684-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p><p>Sorry, but it&#8217;s actually quite easy to ask &#8211; so easy that I suppose it&#8217;d be quite a task to find people who haven&#8217;t asked it in one way or another &#8211; and given answers which are at least provisional, logical, reasonable (which is probably as much as anyone could expect). <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
More than that, I could just as easily reject your rejection; and claim that your concept of rejection also arises from within A.T.U.M.E. <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Note that in the O.P., I never claim some kind of perfect epistemic surety &#8211; only that the options were &#8216;logical&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I may chime in again (sorry)

I reject the question. It is inexorably impossible to ask, and answer. Because our concepts - any of them, all of them - necessarily arrise from &lt;i&gt;within&lt;/i&gt; the A.T.U.M.E. Including our notions of &#039;origin&#039; and &#039;beginning&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree or not: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-3680" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/2_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3680', 'add', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '2_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3680-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-3680" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/2_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3680', 'subtract', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '2_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3680-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p><p>If I may chime in again (sorry)</p>
<p>I reject the question. It is inexorably impossible to ask, and answer. Because our concepts &#8211; any of them, all of them &#8211; necessarily arrise from <i>within</i> the A.T.U.M.E. Including our notions of &#8216;origin&#8217; and &#8216;beginning&#8217;.</p>
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