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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/09/explaining-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-2763</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,
Yes, these are all regresses, whether causal (what caused the first &#039;cause&#039; [which by the way, ignores the word &quot;first&quot;]), or explanatory (what explains the explanation...), or creative (what created the creator).
A half-moment of reflection reveals that these infinite regresses all point to an infinite/final/ultimate end/source (source of all causation; source of explanation; source of creativity).  

Unless you&#039;re wanting to play the turtle-standing-on-another-turtle-standing-on-another... game?  ;)

In sum, infinite regresses point to an infinite source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like or dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-2763" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('2763', 'add', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-2763-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-2763" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('2763', 'subtract', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-2763-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p><p>Simon,<br />
Yes, these are all regresses, whether causal (what caused the first &#8217;cause&#8217; [which by the way, ignores the word "first"]), or explanatory (what explains the explanation&#8230;), or creative (what created the creator).<br />
A half-moment of reflection reveals that these infinite regresses all point to an infinite/final/ultimate end/source (source of all causation; source of explanation; source of creativity).  </p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re wanting to play the turtle-standing-on-another-turtle-standing-on-another&#8230; game?  <img src='http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In sum, infinite regresses point to an infinite source.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/09/explaining-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The non-existing &#039;existing&#039;, non-creating &#039;creating&#039;, non-thing &#039;thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like or dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-2762" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('2762', 'add', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-2762-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-2762" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('2762', 'subtract', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-2762-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p><p>The non-existing &#8216;existing&#8217;, non-creating &#8216;creating&#8217;, non-thing &#8216;thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2009/09/explaining-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-2761</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might seem all very well, until you reaslise that the explanation for nature needs an explanation.....

But we&#039;ve had this conversation before, Dale, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like or dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-2761" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('2761', 'add', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-2761-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-2761" src="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('2761', 'subtract', 'www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-2761-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p><p>This might seem all very well, until you reaslise that the explanation for nature needs an explanation&#8230;..</p>
<p>But we&#8217;ve had this conversation before, Dale, no?</p>
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